Avenger2000
2 Iron

Area-51 R2, NVMe drive Samsung 970 EVO plus

Are there any issues with using a pci-e adapter card and using a nvme SSD drive in one of the x16 graphics card slots? Any heat issues or GPU slowdowns? Will I get close to the 3000mbps read speed? If anyone has done this and has a pci-e card they recommend, I'd appreciate it if you can tell me the brand and model. From what I understand, the latest bios should support it as a boot drive. Thanks!

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JOcean
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Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu

This forum post has a lot of the information you are looking for.

https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-General-Read-Only/Area-51-R2-Where-is-the-M-2-slot-on-the-m...




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Avenger2000
2 Iron

Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu

Thanks, that post tells me everything.  Is it true that an nvme drive can take longer to boot to windows because the time to post is slower than a sata ssd drive?  Something having to do that it takes time to get to the pci-e slots for booting?  Does this happen with the R2’s x99 motherboard?

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Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu

The X16 slots DO NOT SUPPORT NVME Storage cards.


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Avenger2000
2 Iron

Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu

Oh, I thought someone said you can put it in a graphics card slot in the other thread. I guess it goes in the x4 slot then.
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Avenger2000
2 Iron

Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu


@speedstep wrote:

The X16 slots DO NOT SUPPORT NVME Storage cards.


I went through the thread again.  It says to use the 3rd graphics slot.  The x4 slot is PCI Express 2.0.  Has something changed since this thread was created?

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Techgee
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Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu


@speedstep wrote:

The X16 slots DO NOT SUPPORT NVME Storage cards.


An Alienware Area 51 R2 with a Samsung 950 PRO running faster in the x16 PCIe 3.0 slot than it's x4 PCIe 2.0 slot here.  Speed obtained indicates only 4 PCIe lanes are used in both scenarios.  PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 lane speed make the difference.

Generally, any PCIe device, including a NVMe M.2 SSD, will run in any PCIe slot - they'll just negotiate to least common number of PCIe lanes and speed.

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Techgee
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Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu

Also check out this thread - has some good links to Area 51 R2 and M.2 NVMe SSDs.

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Avenger2000
2 Iron

Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu


@Techgee wrote:

@speedstep wrote:

The X16 slots DO NOT SUPPORT NVME Storage cards.


An Alienware Area 51 R2 with a Samsung 950 PRO running faster in the x16 PCIe 3.0 slot than it's x4 PCIe 2.0 slot here.  Speed obtained indicates only 4 PCIe lanes are used in both scenarios.  PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 lane speed make the difference.

Generally, any PCIe device, including a NVMe M.2 SSD, will run in any PCIe slot - they'll just negotiate to least common number of PCIe lanes and speed.


Thanks!  You wouldn't have to know how the post times are with the NVMe drive with a PCI card adapter?  I know some motherboards take some time to post if it's the boot drive.  I'm looking to speed up the overall boot time to windows 10 (from power up so including post) from my older SATA 3 SSD.  I have an Area 51 R2 with the x99 motherboard.  I know the windows 10 loading will probably be faster but the post time may eat up the difference.  

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Tesla1856
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Re: Alienware Area 51 R2 with nvme drive Samsung 970 evo plu


@Avenger2000 wrote:


1. You wouldn't have to know how the post times are with the NVMe drive with a PCI card adapter?

2. I know some motherboards take some time to post if it's the boot drive.

3. I'm looking to speed up the overall boot time to windows 10 (from power up so including post) from my older SATA 3 SSD. 


1. No. All my newer machines have on-board M.2-NVMe SSDs.

2. I think that was just with older Legacy-BIOS machines. Anyway, they were generally slow POST-ing (my Aurora-R1 takes 30 seconds). I've never seen a slow-POSTing UEFI-based machine.

3. It might shave-off a few seconds. I boot the machine once a day, so not sure what the big deal is. Mainly, NVMe is very fast for everything (like while machine is being used). It's about 5-times faster (thru-put) of a SATA-3/600 SSD. 


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