Happyhiker1957
2 Bronze

Aurora R11, heating concerns

I am debating building my own vs the Alienware 11.  I would appreciate any feedback from the many informed users I have noticed who post on this forum.  I am thinking about a an i7-10700 cpu (non-clocked), with the NV 1660i.  I will configure with a 1 TB M2, and then slap in 1 x 2.5" 500GB SSD and 2 x 3.5" 1TB HDD in the bays ( I will need to change one of the lower bay cages.)  I am not a gamer (nothing against gamers) but will be using it to run heavy web surfing (40+ tabs),  streaming and occasional video editing.  Here are my concerns:

Cooling.  Lots and lots of concerns constantly on heat issues with XPS and Alienware.  Mostly coming from heavy gamers I assume, but I still have concerns with the small Alienware case, inferior OEM fans, tight spaces, etc.  I have never had liquid cooling and the idea of putting anything liquid inside a computer freaks me out.  Also I see you have to change out the fluids on the AIO pumps after 20000 hours which means after a couple years, I am going to have to change (or work on) the pump. I thought about going with air cooling but the heat sink on the A11 looks inadequate. 

Questions (assuming the above build):

(a)  Do I need the AIO liquid pump or can I go with air cooling?

(b)  Should I worry about an AIO liquid pump and what maintenance concerns, if any, should I factor in to my decision making?

(c)  Can you put a better CPU sink/fan in the A11?  Can you put a better AIO pump in the A11?

(d) Any thoughts on the CPU or GPU selection?

Thank you for taking the time to review my questions.  All replies are appreciated.

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: A11 heating concerns

@Happyhiker1957 

My non-expert opinion:

(a) Do I need the AIO liquid pump or can I go with air cooling?

Absolutely liquid cooling in these nano-case Easy Bake Ovens

(b) Should I worry about an AIO liquid pump and what maintenance concerns, if any, should I factor in to my decision making?

No worries; 'zero' maintenance. If necessary after 20000 hours the entire AIO system can be replaced with an equivalent 3rd party unit for $80.

(c) Can you put a better CPU sink/fan in the A11? Can you put a better AIO pump in the A11?

Don't even consider air cooling. The OEM AIO liquid cooling is good quality. To improve upon this you would need to go with a custom open loop.

(d) Any thoughts on the CPU or GPU selection?

Go BIG or you will find yourself upgrading later. The 'K' designated processors are selected from the highest yield wafers. Statistically, more reliable, more efficient; statistically. The RTX 2080 Ti would fit nicely in your computer, and you would never have any regrets.

Stay away from HDD spinners, as they will add additional heat to the system.

Tesla1856
7 Thorium

Re: A11 heating concerns

Not sure what an A11 is . I'll assume you mean Aurora-R11 .

a. For Intel i7 or Intel i9 you should get a Liquid-Cooler

b. No. Asetek OEM coolers are very reliable

c. You can do whatever you want, but why? Purchase with Liquid-Cooler and 850w Power-Supply and be done with it. Get your computer and start using it.

d. This is what happens when you try to use fan-cooling on an Intel-i7. Intel-i9 would be worse.

https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Aurora-R9-i7-9700-overheating/m-p/7639359/highligh...


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GTS81
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Re: A11 heating concerns

@Happyhiker1957 :

(a)  Do I need the AIO liquid pump or can I go with air cooling?

AIO liquid pump.

(b)  Should I worry about an AIO liquid pump and what maintenance concerns, if any, should I factor in to my decision making?

No serviceable parts in the AIO. Use it until wheels fall off.

(c)  Can you put a better CPU sink/fan in the A11?  Can you put a better AIO pump in the A11?

You can put a better fan (Corsair ML120 Pro). It's difficult to define better AIO pump. Most pumps even 3rd party ones come from one company called Asetek. The one that comes in the Dell is a pretty good unit.

(d) Any thoughts on the CPU or GPU selection?

Internet browser seems to scale number of tabs with the cores and memory utilized. So you could consider going up to 10900 to get all 20 cores so that Chrome will use maybe only 18 cores while you have 2 more cores to load Excel or something. Make sure you get loads of memory though. If you can score a great deal on your R11 config with 64GB from Dell, go for it and save yourself the headache of upgrading later.

r72019
5 Rhenium

Re: A11 heating concerns

"I am not a gamer (nothing against gamers) but will be using it to run heavy web surfing (40+ tabs)" 

"Internet browser seems to scale number of tabs with the cores and memory utilized. So you could consider going up to 10900 to get all 20 cores so that Chrome will use maybe only 18 cores while you have 2 more cores to load Excel or something. If you can score a great deal on your R11 config with 64GB from Dell, go for it "

@GTS81  Have you ever considered being a computer salesman?  I guess there are a number of things that came to mind (.. title of post is heat concerns), but the only thing I guess I'll comment on is that you forgot to mention an upgrade for the GPU, since we're now pairing a 1660 with a 10900 and 64 gb RAM the GPU would now be a bottleneck on performance, if the system were pushed to the max.

 

 


Anonymous
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Re: A11 heating concerns

@r72019  @GTS81  Have you ever considered being a computer salesman?   . . . but the only thing I guess I'll comment on is that you forgot to mention an upgrade for the GPU

I already sold them a RTX 2080 Ti in the second post   😂

cubicfang
3 Silver

Re: Aurora R11, heating concerns

@Happyhiker1957 

I think your choice of CPU and GPU make a lot of sense for your needs. i7-10700 is a very good choice for video editing and multi-tab web browsing. I use Premier Pro a lot and the video rendering time is mostly determined by CPU's multi-threading performance. GPU does help a bit but not much. Therefore opting against a RTX card is a good decision. 

For cooling concerns, I am not sure about R11 but for our R8 users, switching to a third party AIO liquid cooling is a no-brainer. The stock fan cooling is just a joke and even the Alienware water cooling gets many complaints. I never used water-cooling before either, but I could not be happier after I installed an entry-level Corsair H60 and witnessed it keeping my i9 consistently under 80 degrees for hours of 3D rendering or game development in Unreal Engine. 

Roberto B Costa
2 Bronze

Re: Aurora R11, heating concerns

Whatever you do, don't buy the r11 with 2080 ti. I got one and I sweat everytime I play for a long time, because of the gpu heat, even with undervolt.

For high end gpus only buy with water cooling solutions

Coromir85
2 Bronze

Questions about your R11

@Roberto B Costa 

Hey, I just placed an order for a 2080ti R11 2 days ago, and I've seen a lot of comments like this popping up. it's really got me second guessing that choice. Can I ask what version of the 2080ti OC card comes in that unit? Is it the single blower fan version from previous generations? I read in one forum that it's the Asus ROG-Strix. Also, the R11 only comes with GPU liquid cooling on the 2080/70 super cards, right?

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r72019
5 Rhenium

Re: Questions about your R11

The oem 2080ti is not an asus rog strix (nice thought but wouldn't fit).

It is an msi custom rebrand for dell, based on their aero lineup, with a single blower fan. There is no direct retail equivalent version sold, it is oem dell only.