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September 19th, 2018 19:00
Aurora-R7, AWCC, CPU pump failure
Hello
I have an Alienware Aurora R7 that I bought at the end of July
8700k 4.5 ghz oc
gtx 1080 ti
512 gb SSD
32 gb 2666 ram
I saw just recently by clicking the thermal controller in the taskbar "Cpu pump failed" in the list of items. Since this time, CPU PUMP "Running" or possibly failed? has disappeared from the command center Manage Thermal Systems screen and I now see below CPU FAN, which now reads 100% all the time ~5309 RPM...
Does anyone know what is going on here? Still runs games fine. CPU temps don't go over 58 c in 1440p demanding games....
System sounds normal. I did a BIOS update last night to 1.0.16 but everything restored fine???
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Tesla1856
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September 19th, 2018 20:00
This is how your check your hardware (outside of Windows).
This is for an Aurora R6/R7 with (Asetek) Liquid Cooler
F12 to run ePSA Diagnostics
First page tests take about 5 minutes.
After it finishes Testing, it should say everything Passes.
It will ask about running Extended Tests that take 4 hours
- If you don't expect Memory failure, you can skip RAM Tests
Click arrow button (bottom right) to go to second screen (detailed Test Results)
Notice all the components that tested good
System Health/ Fans / CPU-FAN is actually the impeller-RPM of Asetek Liquid Cooler pump
- Pump Impeller RPM is constant/fixed and should be between 5280-5350 RPM
TOP-FAN (radiator-fan): around 1160 RPM
FRONT-FAN: 450 RPM (PCIe slots & cool-air intake fan)
HARD-DRIVE: 26c
CPU Thermistor: 35c-54c
Tesla1856
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September 19th, 2018 20:00
On the software side ...
Did you try:
Uninstalling old Alienware Command Center
Reboot
Clean-Install this version:
https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/DriversDetails?productCode=alienware-aurora-r7-desktop&driverId=F8P3V
Rjg393
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September 19th, 2018 21:00
Dell wants to send a technician to replace the liquid cooling system but the cpu does not get hot under load so something is cooling it lol. I keep telling them at 1440p 110+ FPS on destiny 2 and my CPU does not exceed 58 degrees C....what are your thoughts?
Rjg393
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September 19th, 2018 21:00
What do you mean by clean-install? I followed Dell’s steps to uninstall from system, remove ACC from registry and install fresh.
Rjg393
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September 19th, 2018 21:00
Yes, tried clean new install of ACC. No display of “CPU pump” anymore... It just now has CPU fan 100% all the time roughly in the range you explained - 5200-5300. All tests passed and were no issues. Games run good. Is there no problems?
Tesla1856
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September 19th, 2018 23:00
At this point, seems as good a try as any.
Can't really say for sure without knowing your ePSA test results and how they compare to mine (from a working Aurora-R6).
Rjg393
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September 20th, 2018 03:00
Another thing to note, my cpu fan speed is not totally fixed. If does vary some but near/within the range you specified
Rjg393
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September 20th, 2018 03:00
Results are as follows....what are your thoughts? Everything passes and reports fine. The real only “issue” is the one time ACC cpu pump failure mention and that status dissapearing and now a reading on the CPU fan in the ACC.
Tesla1856
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September 20th, 2018 12:00
That looks pretty good. However, I wonder why the radiator (Top) Fan shows so high? Even after doing an ePSA test (short, skipping ram test), all it's RPM's should be around 1165rpm. Does it always show that it went that high at some point?
The Liquid-Cooler pump is running ... you can see it at 5299-5389 ... which is normal.
Tesla1856
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September 20th, 2018 12:00
Post a pic of what your Thermal Controller usually looks like now-days in Windows.
Tesla1856
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September 20th, 2018 12:00
As I already posted:
System Health/ Fans / CPU-FAN is actually the impeller-RPM of Asetek Liquid Cooler pump
- Pump Impeller RPM is constant/fixed and should be between 5280-5350 RPM
So, that is normal.
You get it right? When the Aurora-R5/R6/R7 has CPU Liquid-Cooler installed, there is no actual "cpu fan" ... no fan with blades that push air.
Rjg393
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September 21st, 2018 06:00
Ok here is a current shot of the AWCC -
I am not sure on the top fan. It passes the tests so I done think it ever goes that crazy. Possibly just under stress tests?
Dell technician is coming Tuesday to bring new replacement liquid cooler just in case due to the CPU pump failure reading I saw that dissapeared and is now no longer reading in the AWCC. This sensor used to be located next to the GPU fan #1 there. CPU fan started at the same time and appeared below in the fan section. Before it was just top and front.
Tesla1856
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September 21st, 2018 19:00
That pic is wrong.
Notice PCI_SENSOR looks wrong (looks like a "variable name"). That should be "Ambient Sensor".
[CPU Pump = Running] block is missing completely.
In lower Thermal Control section, there should ONLY be Front Fan and Top Fan.
CPU Fan should not even be there. Mainly because you don't have one. Pretty sure that should be up in the top section, and labeled as "CPU Pump = Running".
Also, on all my Aurora's , I use Manual and a nice up-hill Curve.
Rjg393
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September 22nd, 2018 00:00
I agree there are issues. Any thoughts on how to resolve?
Tesla1856
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September 22nd, 2018 09:00
Sure...
https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Area-51-R2-AWCC-problems/m-p/6185678/highlight/true#M5655