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Aurora R9, Corsair ML120 Pro fans issue?
So I've been at this all day searching the forums far and wide for answers and I admit to just about giving up here. Hoping someone here will have some answers otherwise I may just go back to uninstalling these new fans and going back to stock ones.
So I have an Aurora R9 I bought in Sept '19 with a liquid cooled 9700k and a recently bought a 3070 FE, and after about roughly a week I've been pretty satisfied with the card and performance. With an undervolt to the graphics card and aggressive fan curve for top/front fans I was seeing GPU temps around 61 degrees with CPU averaging in the high 60s/low 70s. This dissipated any concerns to me about the GPU's top exhaust fan expelling heat directly to the PSU. Fan sounds are not an issue to me since I wear noise cancelling headphones and friends don't hear the fans so it was a win/win all around. I should have been satisfied with that but as with anything when wanting more sometimes you mess up a good thing lol
My problems started earlier today when I decided to change out the top/front fans from the stock with Corsair ML120 Pros and reapplying the thermal paste. The hope was after finishing installation and running some benchmarks such as Cinebench and a few games for a bit that I would see improved temperatures in the case. If it also means a quieter case then even better! Installed both fans without a hitch, reapplied the thermal paste and computer loaded up without any BIOS issues. On first look the pc was silent and AWCC showed temperatures at 36 degrees with default 10% fan speed
Then the troubles started.....
I ran Cinebench to stress test the CPU and even with custom fan curve I had from the previous fans they never revved up staying at ~10% according to AWCC so of course during the test it sent the CPU well into the high 90s. The few times the fans kicked in and to try to keep the case cool it was performing better than I expected keeping temps in the low 70s during testing. Okay, so I decided to use an offset to fix the issue. Then I found out that you can't really control the fans to their max potential; seems like 55-60% of fan's RPMs is the max these fans will go. I was still okay with this as long as it showed better performance
Then when used the offset and started running Cinebench the fans went back to idle and did nothing. I tested this phenomenon with a few games as well and same issue. The fans will turn off when game starts and randomly rev up and down but mostly staying in idle while game runs. As a result the computer got hot quick with CPU hitting mid 80s in 10 mins playing
Tried using and downloading other third party programs like hwinfo64, iCUE's own software, SpeedFan and FanControl to control the fan speeds but they never detected the fans themselves
Am I missing something? I tried to look for answers but it seems the few that had solutions didn't work for me. I checked for any new updates as well and nothing. When the fans work like I want them they're nice and I'm assuming the thermal paste is at least keeping up with the surprisingly good job it had before when I cleaned it eariler. Hard to say if it's better because I can't get any consistency. But the idle or random fan speed ups that happen rarely to boot leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'll keep tinkering but it's looking like I'll go back to stock fans if I can't fix this fan issue just so I can have control again
If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Any questions you have for me I'll be happy to answer them. TIA!
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January 19th, 2021 20:00
@hpereze Tried using and downloading other third party programs like hwinfo64, iCUE's own software, SpeedFan and FanControl to control the fan speeds but they never detected the fans themselves
This is the most peculiar part of the story. Something ain't right. The low percentages in AWCC are normal. A Corsair ML120 Pro at its maximum 2400 rpm is about 55% of the OEM fan speed. You need to get the fans detected in 3rd party software that will give you an rpm reading. Post some photos of your fans and connections . . . and your AWCC setup. A few photos of that sweet RTX 3070 FE would be nice also
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January 19th, 2021 21:00
@Anonymous
I already attempted to completely uninstall and reinstall AWCC with no success unfortunately.
As far as McAfee I don't think I ever had it on this system or at least I already removed it if I did. I'm running it now to be safe. I'll also disable Windows Defender after the restart to see if I have any luck as well
Yay insomnia!
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January 19th, 2021 21:00
@Anonymous
Yeah, it's the weirdest thing. The few results I came across with people having a similar problem is that its possibly a mobo/fan compatibility issue. It's been driving me insane since I can't even get fan read outs
https://i.imgur.com/FBjMtD9.jpg - AWCC showing 9700k OC to 5ghz
https://i.imgur.com/SqL9hgT.jpg - AWCC fan #1
https://i.imgur.com/mpz808F.jpg - AWCC fan #2
https://i.imgur.com/NDsKpGS.jpg - inside case #1
https://i.imgur.com/DgUsrd8.jpg - inside case #2
https://i.imgur.com/ABVpm84.jpg - inside case #3
https://i.imgur.com/67CbCR3.jpg - inside case #4
https://i.imgur.com/5gCtYZb.jpg - the sexy 3070 FE #1
https://i.imgur.com/xCaIWtQ.jpg - the sexy 3070 FE #2
If you need more pictures let me know and thanks for responding!
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January 19th, 2021 21:00
@hpereze It's been driving me insane since I can't even get fan read outs
Wow . . . really great photos and a very nice looking rig. We got to get this baby running smooth. I don't see anything that stands out in the photos that would be causing to problems. I will suggest 2 things this late at night . . . both a shot in the dark.
Download the McAfee anti-virus uninstall tool and make sure every remnant of that bloatware is cleaned out of your registry.
Completely uninstall, and re-install AWCC.
If no luck there . . . temporarily disable whatever anti-virus program(s) you are using and test to see if that is interfering with the fan control.
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
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I cannot seem to find it. Any chance you can share a screenshot of what I'm supposed to be seeing?
r72019
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
@hpereze "Then when used the offset and started running Cinebench the fans went back to idle and did nothing."
You need to disable always ready mode otherwise the fans will idle after 10 minutes of inactivity regardless of what the processor is doing.
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
I don't think I have access to that setting with my version of AWCC. I've pretty much checked every setting in the app and not seeing it on my end.
Don't recall it ever being a problem before I switch the fans out
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
The idle (default) only kicks in when you manually change the fan profile in AWCC. Or at least on my version and prior versions. Maybe it got changed in your version, but since you mentioned it idling after you changed the fan profile that is why I mentioned it.
Try the alien head icon in the bottom right of your screen (task bar) single right (not left) click and see if there's anything to do about inactivity or always ready or the like.
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
I have a different version of AWCC. On mine its under Alien Fusion, Advanced, additional settings.
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
You disable it in AWCC.
hpereze
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January 19th, 2021 22:00
https://i.imgur.com/MS3T7Xd.jpg
I'm assuming it would be in power management on my version of AWCC but I see nothing like that. Also right clicked the task bar Alien once and nothing there as well. Picture shown above to illustrate what I'm seeing on my end
I don't think I can ever recall getting those kinds of issues pre-fans change earlier today
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January 20th, 2021 09:00
@hpereze Tried using and downloading other third party programs like hwinfo64, iCUE's own software, SpeedFan and FanControl to control the fan speeds but they never detected the fans themselves
HWINFO64 does normally, maybe you want to recheck as the list of sensors is long, maybe not, it works on my R8:
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January 20th, 2021 10:00
@hpereze
ok, well for info, my Noctuas (1850/2000RPM) cut out if going above 37% on front fan.
The idea is AWCC shows the percentage compared to the OEM fan speed, so 4500x37%=1600 for me (approx), one notch up (+7-10 offset) and it wants to jump to 45% and the Noctua cuts out.
The same principle will be for the top fan mine is AWCC 24% and 1200RPM HWINFO. So if I put ML 120 PROs in (2400RPM) I reckon they will cut out around the 50%, and no more CPU cooling, just a guess for the moment
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January 20th, 2021 10:00
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I checked the hwinfo64 several times yesterday and today as well. The only fan control/stats I see have been from the GPU reporting the 3070 FE's two fans RPM. Since I have never had to check the fan stats beyond what AWCC gave me on the stock fans I don't know if this was a problem before I installed the ML120 Pro fans.