BoostJuice
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Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

Hi ElfiWolfe, thanks again for the response, as Im learning about this stuff. i do have some experience in owning some different GFX cards but havent really done too much other than plug them in and play. Also the cards I am talking about are old now, I have no idea what to look for.

So you say you would only go 1 card and a single GPU? you mean i should just take out my GTX260 and leave the GTX295 for now till I get my new card as well? Or do you mean when I upgrade, just focus on 1 card.

Is one card and 1 GPU different?

Lastly (lot of questions Im sorry), but can you give some detail about why is this motherboard only good for for 1 GPU? It has 3 of those fluro yello PCI slots for up to TR-SLI? Have they been proven faulty or something I dont know about?

Which card do you think is better,the GTX580 3gb or gtx 680) and can you add to them later (sli for example?)

and can I use any of my cards as PHYS X, or is it magic potion as proven in my 3dmark06 scores.

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morblore
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Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

Hi ElfiWolfe, thanks again for the response, as Im learning about this stuff. i do have some experience in owning some different GFX cards but havent really done too much other than plug them in and play. Also the cards I am talking about are old now, I have no idea what to look for.

 

So you say you would only go 1 card and a single GPU? you mean i should just take out my GTX260 and leave the GTX295 for now till I get my new card as well? Or do you mean when I upgrade, just focus on 1 card.

 

Is one card and 1 GPU different?

 

Lastly (lot of questions Im sorry), but can you give some detail about why is this motherboard only good for for 1 GPU? It has 3 of those fluro yello PCI slots for up to TR-SLI? Have they been proven faulty or something I dont know about?

 

Which card do you think is better,the GTX580 3gb or gtx 680) and can you add to them later (sli for example?)

 

and can I use any of my cards as PHYS X, or is it magic potion as proven in my 3dmark06 scores.

 

 

Get a GTX 680. A single GTX 680 gives a 3Dmark 11 score of over 10,000 points. Thats on par with a pair of GTX 480s or 580s in SLI. It's that good. I would then sell the GTX 295 and 260.

You also don't need the 4gb GTX 680 unless you are running some insanely high resolution. Even then you won't really need 4gb. The 2gb model is more then enough and the benchmarking tests that sites have done proves this.  

I have the same system as yours. Mine even came with dual GTX 295s in quad SLI when I first got it. I can say for a fact that the GTX 680 will work in your Area 51.

You could save the GTX 260 for just a PhysX card if you like. It is not magic potion. In games that use it like Batman it makes a difference. I don't think you will really need to do it though if you get the 680. While adding a dedicated PhysX card improves games that use PhysX the 680 is so powerful that it can do it on its own just fine.

What I did was buy just one GTX 680 to replace my 3 GTX 480s. Sold the 480s. Now I am waiting for the 4gb model and the dual GPU 690s to come out. I figure by then the price may drop some on the 680 2gb. Once it does then I will buy a couple more. In the meantime the 680 blows through any game you can throw at it so there is no need to run out and buy another one right away. If I have to wait 6 months or even a year for the price to drop I can because the 680 is good enough in a single card config.

Go here and download the basic free version of 3Dmark 11 and then run it. That will give you a benchmark to compair to mine with the 680 in it. I'm gonna guess you will get around 4-5k with the 295. http://www.3dmark.com/3dmark11/

At stock I get a score of 9365. Overclocked I get 10,086. This is not a hugh overclock at all and I didn't even bother overclocking the memory. Also, the GTX 680 will self overclock just like intel's turbo does on the i7 CPUs.

With my 3 GTX 480s overclocked and in 3-way SLI I got 14,117 with my CPU at 4.3ghz. I get a 10,086 with a single 680 and CPU at only 4.0ghz. That's how powerful the new 680 is. It's a beast!

 

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Elfiwolfe
2 Iron

Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

The only reason I suggested the 4 GB single card(gpu) is due to how the Frostbite 2 engine streams textures (this is the engine for Battlefield 3)  

I have a 4 GPU set up with 1 GB per card.  It can handle Farcry 2 at 5780x1080 without problems.  But Battlefield 3 BSOD the system.  so I had to change BF3 to a single GPU with mediums textures due to the streaming of textures.  (this also may only happen with the 5970 cards)

At medium textures at 1900x1000 BF3 is taking 3 GB of video memory with only 1 GPU running.

On lighter card they can stream without problems but the 5970 is a hot card and it is overloading something.

But to go from 2 GB to 4 GB is a big increase in cost.  and many not be needed.

In the end I would say to just get a single GTX 680 2GB model.  be about 500$ and sell off your 2 current cards.

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morblore
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Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

The only reason I suggested the 4 GB single card(gpu) is due to how the Frostbite 2 engine streams textures (this is the engine for Battlefield 3)  

 

I have a 4 GPU set up with 1 GB per card.  It can handle Farcry 2 at 5780x1080 without problems.  But Battlefield 3 BSOD the system.  so I had to change BF3 to a single GPU with mediums textures due to the streaming of textures.  (this also may only happen with the 5970 cards)

 

At medium textures at 1900x1000 BF3 is taking 3 GB of video memory with only 1 GPU running.

 

On lighter card they can stream without problems but the 5970 is a hot card and it is overloading something.

 

But to go from 2 GB to 4 GB is a big increase in cost.  and many not be needed.

 

In the end I would say to just get a single GTX 680 2GB model.  be about 500$ and sell off your 2 current cards.

 

I think it was something unique to your cards or system. I never had issues with the three 480s though they do have half a gig more ram on each card then the 5970. The 680 is just fine for 2560 x 1600 or even 5760 x 1080.

 

In this review you can see that while the 7970 has 1gb more ram and is overclocked it only does about 1fps more then the 680 at 5760 x 1080.  At that resolution you would expect the extra memory to pay off but it didn't. I really can't see any need for a 4gb model when reviewers show numbers like this.

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" We brought you performance numbers on a 5760x1080 2D panel setup and showed you that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 had no problems hanging with the fastest factory overclocked AMD Radeon HD 7970 that money can buy (The MSI R7970 Lightning is $100 more!). If you are looking for a graphics card for a triple-monitor setup today, we have no reservations recommending the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680!

Legit Bottom Line: NVIDIA Surround has come a long way since it was first introduced and the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 can easily hang with the AMD Radeon HD 7970 in the benchmarks at Ultra HD resolutions! "

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1887/1/

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BoostJuice
2 Iron

Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

Hey thanks heaps guys for the suggestions, I bought myself a macbook so i held off on buying a card for a bit (needed that for university so was a bit higher up in the chain of need).

But Im back in the market. Hey MorBlore, I did infact download and install that 3dMark11.. only problem.. my GTX295 is not DX11 so it does not work (so we cant compareSmiley Sad ).

I think now prices on a GTX680 might have dropped so Ill check it out and post back and differences I find.

You guys are sure though that the Physx car makes a difference? As seen above, it got lower 3DMark06 scores having both cards instead of just the GTX295. I did just buy Arkham City though so will that use Physx?

Thanks again to everybody and their knowledge.

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morblore
5 Rhenium

Re: AREA 51 Best Video card with i975X?

If money is an issue then look at the gtx 670 or wait a few weeks for the 660. I think 3Dmark will use the CPU and not the GPU for physics to keep the AMD people happy and using their software. I know the newer verson is that way.

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