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Cloud Tiering Appliance/VE Trial Version FAQ

This FAQ should tell you everything you need to know to get started with the Cloud Tiering Appliance/VE trial version.

Question: Where can I get the CTA/VE trial version?

Answer: You can download the trial version here.

Question: What files do I need to download?

Answer: You will need the following three files:

    • CTA/VE trial version software .ZIP
    • CTA/VE Trial Version Installation Instructions .PDF  (attached below)
    • CTA Online Help .PDF  (attached below)

Question: What version of CTA/VE is the trial version?

Answer: The CTA/VE trial version is the current release, version 10.0.  This release of CTA/VE supports VNX, Celerra, and NetApp primary storage and VNX, VNXe, Celerra, Centera, Atmos, Isilon, Data Domain, Windows, and Amazon S3 target storage.

Question: How is the CTA/VE trial version different from the full product?

Answer: The CTA/VE trial version has all of the functionality of the full CTA/VE product. It is limited only in the number of files it can move.  While the full product has a file limit of 500 million, the trial version file limit is 5,000.

Question: Can I use the CTA/VE trial version in a production environment?

Answer: No, it is not recommended to use the trial version in a production environment. There is no upgrade path from the trial version to the full product.

Question: What are the system requirements for the CTA/VE trial version?

Answer: The CTA/VE trial version installs on VMware ESXi 4.1 or 5.0 or ESX 4.0 or 4.1 server with the following:

    • 1 Virtual CPUs (vCPU)
    • 1 GB memory
    • 20 GB disk

There is also a Workstation version of the CTA/VE trial version software.

Question: What other resources are available to help me learn more about how CTA/VE works?

Answer: You can learn more about CTA/VE features and benefits by visiting the product page on EMC.com.

Question: Is there a Getting Started document?

Answer: The two documents to help you get started, attached here, are CTA/VE Trial Version Installation Instructions and CTA Online Help.

Have more questions?  Just add them to this discussion thread and we'll make sure they are answered quickly.

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Kristine,

Just giving the FMA VE a try and I'm running vSphere on my system. Your instructions state the FMA VE is compatible with vSphere, but you don't mention if we should upgrade the Virtual Hardware (VM version is v4, vSPhere supports VM's of v7) or upgrade the VMware tools.

Is this new VM Hardware version supported on the VE and upgrading Vmware tools a good idea?

Thanks

TG

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Tony,

vSphere is backwards compatible and we don't rev the FMA/VE software as a result of changes in the hardware version or tools, so you shouldn't have any issues and it's not necessary to upgrade your VM tools.

Thanks for downloading the FMA/VE trial version.  I'll be eager to learn how things go for you, so I hope you share your experience here.

Kris

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Thanks Kristine,

Will keep the Virtual Hardware and VMware tools at v4 then

Will keep you posted on how I get on

TG

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Kristine,

Firstly - thanks again for the FMA VE trial, it works well on setup (Celerra is a little fiddly) but the documentation seems to work well and the product seems pretty straight forward.

I do have one query - which is hindering my Archiving test and it relates to "Delay Stubbing"

This is a new thing (since the last time I looked at FMA) and seems a little odd initially. FIrstly - surely you don't stub until all the files are copied, and therefore - why should you need to delay it by 'x' days?? Seems odd, but still, I understand the need to be cautious.

I noted in the documentation that Schdules that are "Run Now" are exempt from "Delay stubbing".  If I created my initial schedule as "Run NOW", It would not allow me to run a "Simulation" as it would just start archiving straight away, so I surmised, incorrectly it may seem, that creating a schedule that was sent to run once a month, then "Manually running" it from the schedule view would be the same as a "Run Once" but this did not seem to be the case. Therefore - I'm managed to archive "without stubbing" which is a little pointless .

As this is really a test environment, I felt  - OK no problem, lets just delete this schedule and start again with a run once. This also now fails and seems to take no files. So It seems for every operation I have to wait the day I set before the stubbing starts?.

Is there no way to override this??

I have tried changing the policy to have "Delay Stubbing - 0" but this does not seem to have an effect? It's as if the initial operation set the system to wait for a day and re-archiving does not reset the clock??

Any insight would be greatfully recieved.

On a more positive note , the installation of the Appliance is childsplay. The Avamar AVE guys should come and see how you do it!!

Thanks again,

TG

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Tony,

First of all, thanks for the feedback.  I'm very pleased to hear that you found the installation to be straightforward.

I completely understand your concern with delayed stubbing.  The feature was designed as a safeguard for asynchronously replicated environments (for DR).  For example, if the DR site data is 4 hours behind the primary site data, the delay allows time for the secondary file to replicate to the DR site before replacing the original file with a stub.  It's simply an extra safety measure; the default delay is 7 days.  We've put in a request, however, to change the default to 0 days.

I hope this helps, and let me know if I can help you in any other way.

Kris

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Hi Kristine,

Thanks again for the assistance. I wonder if I could impose upon your brain a little more . Please feel free to point me at another member of staff if you prefer, but I have a few questions relating to DR and the use of the FMA.

Most clients these days will buy two Celerra's, and ideally use Celerra Replicator to replicate file systems between them. How will be FMA cope with having it's source and target replicated?

Please see the questions below.

Tech Questions 1 :

Assuming I want to have a Celerra at Site-A that contains TWO file systems, one for the LIVE data and one for the ARCHIVE. This way I can use Site A’s backup infrastructure to pull both source and archive off to tape via NDMP. Great. But I also have a second Celerra at Site-B which I use for DR.

Ideally – I’d also like to replicate these file system to Celerra at Site-B? Can I just use Celerra Replicator to replicate the file systems 'Source and Archive' to a different Celerra? Assuming I can (as they are just file systems) would the FMA pointers still work??

In the event I try and USE the file system at Site-B (in the event of Site-A failure) would I be able to get the data from the archive?

Tech Question 1: b

If it’s NOT possible to use Celerra replicator to replicate the archive, can we ask Rainfinity to maintain the same archive twice, once on Site-A’s Celerra and Once at Site-b’s? If I then fail over - would I then be able to get to the source AND archive data?

Tech Question 2 :

In the event of a problem. Is it possible to “Recover” files from the archive straight back into the original file system. Essentially run an “Un Archive” task that will revert the file system to the un-archived state? (rather than accessing and changing them all!)

Tech Question 3 :

The archived files seem to be in a hidden/locked folder. Is it possible to open and access the archive to re-assure a client that the files are still present and correct and not held in some obscure database?

Any assistance would be much appreciated. 

TG

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Tony,

Sorry for the delay; I had to get a little help on this as it's beyond my area of expertise.  Here's what I've learned:

1. Site-A has two filesystems - one for live data and one for archive. Site-B is used for DR. Can I use Celerra Replicator to replicate both filesystems to Site-B and will recall still work? The filesystems can be replicated using Celerra Replicator to another Celerra.  However, be aware of the recall architecture when archiving from Celerra to a NAS repository filesystem. The Celerra Data Mover recalls the archived data from the 'Archive' filesystem upon client I/O directly without using FMA.  The DM resolves the secondary path presented in the stub file, i.e. cifs://server.domain.prv/archive/.rffm_nas/0/0/0/1000 to recall the archived data. To be able to recall at Site-B, the DR Celerra must be able to resolve this path at the DR archive filesystem upon a site failure. This would likely require failover of the original CIFS server from SITE-A (if using CIFS) to the Celerra at Site-B to work properly. If Site-A is active, the recall will be done using the archive filesystem at Site-A. This applies whether the source and archive filesystems are archived using CIFS or NFS.

2. Is it possible to recover files from the archive back into the primary filesystem? This can be done by deleting the FMA DHSM connection from the Celerra filesystem and using the 'recall_policy yes' option.

Example: fs_dhsm -c <filesystem> -delete <cid> -recall_policy yes

where <cid> is the connection ID for the FMA DHSM connection. This will first recall all archived files back to the primary filesystem, then delete the connection.

3.  Is it possible to open and access the archive? Archived files are stored in a directory called .rffm_nas in the top level of the repository. From a CIFS client you can manually enter in this path to access the repository or view hidden folders to see it at the top level. From an NFS client, you can do the same or view the directory using 'ls -la'. The files are stored using file IDs specific to FMA so they will not directly correlate to the original filenames, so use caution with accessing the repository directory structure.

Hope this is helpful,

Kris

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hi Kris,

Thanks for the helpful info..

What is the cost for full version FMA/VE ?

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Re: FMA/VE Trial Version FAQ

Hello Maheshtata,

Thanks for your interest in FMA/VE.  If you will message me privately and let me know the name of your organization and where you're located, I can put you in touch with an EMC representative who can provide you with pricing information.

(Do you know how to send a private message?  Click on my name and when it takes you to my profile choose Send private message from the Actions box on the right.)

Kris

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