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Can Chris or some one give additional input?
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Hello Chris,or anyone that likes helping, looks like this group is the one with all the knowledge when it comes to these Dell systems so I need to hit you up for a few questions before time takes its toll on me and the new system. Now granted these are hypothetical questions but I am sure sometime during the life of my system I will be doing some upgrades to my system and was not sure what types of processors I could use. I do see several listed but am not sure that the motherboard or power supply would work for them. I see Dell makes the Q6700, Q9300, Q9450, Q9550, now are all these duo quad processors that would fit my motherboard along with the 425 watt power supply which Dell says I have? As you can see I don't want to change power supply or motherboard or overclock a smaller chip.Also do not want to burn up power supply or overheat anything from putting a bigger processor in it. What would be ideal in this situation? Also would it help any if I went up on the memory? I have 4 gig 800 in the stock machine which is running vista 32 bit. Also would like to keep the larger front side bus and needed to know if bios would need anything done to it. I wish I had waited on the Quad Xenon but I didn't I just want to keep this one for going as long as my last one did and I put it together with 2 single Pentium IV 300 chips and it blazed for 4 good years. I think you get my idea of just what I want to do but it would be a little at a time. Also do you think I should go on and put Vista 64 on it? I really like the system. Aso what about 2 nvidia cards? I don't know if I have any more room because there is a modem and the SOD card. Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry about that guys. I did read how to post I just think there was a short somewhere between the left ear and the right ear. Or would you say between the head and the seat? I knew I was to antsy to write it all down. And for the speculators you are correct it is an XPS 420. I really don't want to overclock anything was just curious if I could purchase one of the other chips and it fit into the stock motorboard without having power supply or overheating problems. I just don't know if they make a higher cpu that will fit the socket on the motherboard and if so which or which ones would fit it. Also if I took out the modem do you think I could get another nvidia in it? Thanks for the info on the memory but now I see the Vista 64 bit will recognize some ungodly amount is this true or just smoke blown my way? Thank you all for your help and I hope I can get much more inputs. Thank each and everyone for your help and hope I can get alot more. Thanks William
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Davet50
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July 2nd, 2008 16:00
also use the graphical editor to post as your html code is not comming through...
P.S i m bettin a 420....:smileywink:
Timdrouilard
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July 2nd, 2008 16:00
In order for any of us to even begin to address your questions, we need to know just what system you have.
Is it an Inspiron, a precision workstation, an XPS?
Which model is it, and also what OS are you currently running.
Rafael Polit
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July 2nd, 2008 18:00
One question can be answered straighforward: If you are using a 32bit OS, be it Vista or XP, you don't want to put more than 4GB of memory as your system won't see them, in fact, your system won't even see your actuall 4GB and will only see about 3GB after deducting the memory used by the graphics card, other PCI devices, BIOS, etc.
I also think you are talking about the XPS420, in which case you cannot add another graphics card, you have only one PCIe x16 slot which is the slot required by most modern cards and the ones that are SLI capable.
Hope this helps a bit,
Rafa.
Davet50
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July 2nd, 2008 21:00
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July 3rd, 2008 00:00
Please see original post for additional help, Info.
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July 3rd, 2008 02:00
from your bottom line. Will my 420XPS run this same chip without any mods? Also I see you are dual boot on a 32 bit and a 64 bit Vista. As for what Dell told me the 64 bit would not be supported. Have you found this to be a problem? Also one last thing are you using an APC battery backup and if so which size did you get. APC tells me I need a 1300 but I'm not really sure about that. Thanks for your help. Good evening.
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Timdrouilard
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July 3rd, 2008 03:00
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Yes my 420 is stock. Is was bought with the Quad Extreme QX6850, so it should run just fine in yours.
Dell does not officially support Vista 64 on the 420, but it runs just fine.
No I am not running a battery backup of any kind at the moment.
Rafael Polit
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July 3rd, 2008 05:00
Do_Not Know,
About that second nVidia, there is no way to put two PCIe x16 on the XPS 420 motherboard, even if you remove all your other cards. The XPS 420 has one single PCIe x16 slot, one x8 slot, one x1 slot and 3 regular PCI slots. So as for dual cards, you are completely out of luck, save for a 9800 GX2 :)
Rafa.
Timdrouilard
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July 3rd, 2008 11:00
With regards to the processor, at the time I bought my 420 in Dec 07, the Quad Extreme QX6850 WAS the fastes processor available for it.
I have no idea about any processors that have come out since then. Sorry.
Keep in mind that when you get into the territory of 'extreme' processors from Intel, they fetch a premimum price. In my case the QX6850 was a $1,100.00 option. Going higher might not be cheap.
Davet50
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July 3rd, 2008 13:00
Supported Processors on the 420
Processors
DX483 Conroe Kit, E4400, 2.00G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
DX484 Conroe Kit, E6420, 2.13G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
DX485 Conroe Kit, E6320, 1.86G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
HU587 Conroe Kit, E4300, 1.80G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
MP160 Conroe Kit, E6550, 2.33G, 4MB, 1333FSB
MP162 Conroe Kit, E6750, 2.66G, 4MB, 1333FSB, G0
MP628 Conroe Kit, E6850, 3.00G, 4MB, 1333FSB, G0
MP626 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, Q6600, 2.40G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
MP627 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, Q6700, 2.66G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
UP673 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6700, 2.66G, 8MB, 1066FSB, B3
RX656 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6800, 2.93G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0
PW016 Kentsfield Quad Core Kit, QX6850, 3.00G, 8MB, 1333FSB, G0
WM543 Conroe XE Kit, X6800, 2.93G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
see here for more info XPS 420 FAQ
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July 3rd, 2008 14:00
Tim thank you for all your help and you have told me what I needed to know. Just wanted to get the info correct now so that when one comes along (Processor) I can pick it up. Looks like the 300 quad is the way to go. And for the money hopefullu in another 9 or so months they will be a little cheaper.
Thanks for all your help and have a safe and happy 4th of July.
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