Hi,

For this model Dell manufactures only a 300 w psu, so even if you wish to buy a Dell specific one, there are no parts for this model that will work. 

Regards

thank you, this is not quite what i wanted to hear, but thanks anyway

There are certainly upgraded PSUs you can run in a 3847. The connector is standard, but your older power supply may not supply enough of the right kind of power.

If you bought a newer PSU with the right specs I'm 99% it will work and I'm also fairly sure the 24 pin ATX connector is standard. It has been for a while.

What do you need more power for? How much more?

I don't have any specific recommendations because I don't know the size of your case and how large of a PSU will fit that case and how much power you need.

24 pins is EPS12V.  20 pins is ATX.

Power supplies that guarantee 150W combined on the 3.3v 5v rail and 15 to 20W on the +5vSB Rail  with 450W or more on the 12v rails would work.

This is why a Corsair CS750M is a recommended upgrade.

Systems that are 650W and lower that only have 130W on the 3.3v/5v rail tend to not work well if at all.

Systems with less than 15W on the +5vsb rail tend to not work well if at all.

thank you, because i have been getting the runaround trying to determine if off-the-shelf power supplies would work, as friends of mine had told me that Dell computers would only work with Dell-branded PSUs, and i would rather not be limited by the PSU as to what Graphics Card i can get. i had tried using the PSU from my old computer (one that fit in a Compaq Presario SR5710y), but this one (as i am posting this in this forum, should be noted that it is indeed a Dell Inspiron 3847) , refused to work with it, powering on for a second, then shutting down, thus my quest started to find the answer, i had noticed that your reference pictures had a aftermarket PSU in them, so this is why i asked you in particular. looking at the specs of the PSU i have sitting on my lap as i type this, it has a combined wattage on the 3.3v/5v rail of 130 watts, with on the +5vSB rail it does have a combined wattage of 16.1 watts. the unit being a BFGR450WGS PSU if you so desire to look at the full specs, needless to say this PSU was made back in 2009,so i am guessing it is insufficient to meet the needs of this new computer. 

looking at the specs on the Corsair website http://www.corsair.com/en/cs-series-modular-cs750m-750-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-psu

CORSAIR CSM Series CS750M 

has a wattage of 

and it was indicated that 130 watts is not enough for those rails. should i look at another supply or what?

The issue is that 25 amps * 5v = 125W  some supplies that people are complaining about have a rating of 20 AMPS aka 100W on the 5V rail.    You cant get max output on all the rails at the same time.  Many people balk at 500W being too small because they look at the supply as a single 12v rail and disregard everything else.  The spec is misleading if you look at total.  744W means 6W for everything else.  The opposite end of that is that if it needs 25A on the 5v rails it wont shut down.  Supplies are not linear and use max amps continuously.

CX500 for example

+3.3V@25A, +5V@20A, +12V@38A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@3.0A

DELL YN637  525W T3400 power supply

This works fine with specific Geforce 960 from evga.

But that does not mean all 500W power supplies are created equal.  +5VSB is 4A and the combined says 150W for the 3.3v/5v

in that case then the recommendation for the CS750M still stands, as the chart on the corsair website is a tad misleading, i take it.

This system does not need a 750W PSU, and even if it did, I wouldn't suggest the corsair CS750M.

How big of a graphics card are you planning? A GTX 980? MSI suggests 500W for their Kick-A High end graphics card that probably won't even fit in the case.

http://us.msi.com/product/vga/GTX-980-GAMING-4G.html#hero-specification

Research this more. Speedstep has a bunch of out-dated, copy past text that doesn't apply to haswell motherboards.

I run Seasonic X-650s in two XPS 8700s, with high power draw graphics cards. Overclocked GTX 770 and an overclocked GTX 760. If seasonic had a high quality 550W I would have bought it. 

Also, that Corsair is just an average PSU. There are better units for the same money or equal units for less.

Here is one that is (in my opinion) better and less money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207034

the physical dimensions of the case would be the limiting factor, but i intend to at very least have a video card with at least 2GB GDDR5, preferably 4GB GDDR5, with a core clock at least 1000Mhz, preferably beyond that, i also intend to insert the most powerful CPU i can fit in there, which looks to be the Intel Core i7 4790k, double the ram to the max, and be able to sit back and play Elite Dangerous, and games of that magnitude. (i have a fair number of games on Steam), i also intend to render CGI animations via Blender and the like, so the more umph, the better. i have found cards such as http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9088213&CatId=7387 .

Why not buy or build a new machine? By the time you add upgrades in the $600 to $900 range, spend another $150 and build a complete system.

You mentioned a 4790K and a video card that will run A-list games. I think a GTX 960 is the low end of this and a GTX 970 is the sweet spot. You mention CGI rendering. These applications are memory hungry and 32GB will help this out along with large, very fast drives, and maybe multiple SSDs (an SSD scratch disk)

But first lets look at how far you can push the 3847.

The hard disk mounting location will interfere with a full size graphics card. It looks like this could be worked around by moving one HDD to the second 5 1/4 inch bay and mounting an SSD underneath it. SSDs are easy to mount in lots of places.

The other option is a short form factor graphics card.  Here is an example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125706

But the fullsize cards are quieter, run faster and overclock better, but even moving the HDDs it might be a challenge to get a full size graphics card in the inspiron case.

Cooling is an issue. Read the XPS 8700 / GTX upgrade thread that has been going on for almost a year. Many of us have GTX 970s or GTX 770s and a few GTX 980s  but when pushed hard the cases are getting warm to hot.  I think the XPS 8700 case is setup to breathe better than the inspiron case but maybe an extra intake fan can solve this. There is one who added fans to the 8700 and the temps got worse so YMMV.

CPU: I've yet to see a 4790K installed in a 3847, but it might work. There is a recent post in this forum where a 4790K was successfully installed into a XPS 8700 with a water cooler so it looks like anything might be possible. The downside I can see is the 3847 motherboard is not built to supply the power that the 4790K needs. 

The 3847 motherboard tops out at 16GB RAM with only two DIMM slots. Plenty for games but may limit the CGI rendering. Also I think the 3847 has only two SATA III connectors and the rest are SATA II so if you plan more than two SSDs you should factor that in. Most HDDs don't push the limit of SATA II.

So back to the power supply: I suggest you do get a 650w or 750W, 80plus Gold fully modular power supply because I think once you start upgrading this computer you'll out grow it and then you'll have a great PSU to put into your next build. 

Or skip the upgrade and start saving for the next build and buy the parts that match the needs of the system.

Once you upgrade PSU, RAM, CPU, Graphics card, add SSDs all that remains from the original system is the case the motherboard and maybe the wifi/bluetooth. A decent case can be found on sale in the $50 range, and a really good case can be found on sale for around $100. Solid Z97 motherboards built for overclocking are in the $100 range.  

Just a thought. 

The corsair supplies are not misleading.  People are misleading themselves by thinking of a power supply as linear and a single 12v rail with single specification of Watts.   Saying you can use a  500W for a 970 or 980 is disingenious at best.  Even Dell 305W units have specific loading balance not just 305W on 12v and throw the baby out with the bath water.

Dell doesn't overstate what their power supply can do.  Smaller NON EPS12v power supplies do not provide 170W on the 3.3v and 5v rails and 20 to 25W on the 5vSB rail.  Getting smaller means the supply might not work at all or will blink Amber within 30 seconds of turning on.

5.0V @ 16 A = 80W

3.3V @  8A = 26.4W

12V @ 25.0A = 300 W

5VSB @ 4A = 20 W

Dell Rates as a 305W power supply.    

This also assumes 80% or better efficiency. Aka 100W = 80W at 80% efficiency.

Many of the Cheap NON EPS ATX power supplies that people choose based on PRICE only provide 15W on 5VSB and 120W on the 3.3/5 rail which means in some cases it won't even turn on or if it does it goes to flashing amber within 20 seconds.

 The 550M may be too small if you use a Pentium D 960 because the 5VSB is 15W not 20W.   S3 standby may need as much as 30W for some processor/motherboard configurations.  If you add up the max power ratings at the bottom you get a much larger number.  You ignore ratings other than the 12v rail at your own risk.

I installed a 4790K in my 3847 and a Geforce 570TI SHORT card and a Corsair CS750M and it works fine. Max ram is 16 gigs as there are only 2 slots.