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Psychovadge
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Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Weird,

My previous post has been deleted by "TOS24" with no reason given other than some crummy automated email and vague comments that I can't reply to.

Nice. Thanks TOS24, I would be very interested to hear what I said was "unlawful" ???? At least have the honesty to say what was actually *perceived* as wrong.

To the guys who wanted some advice, don't bother with this forum.

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RobinBredin
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Hi, Looking at your specks HERE<ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed / replaced from this post by Dell>

, you will get an full hight card into that system, and your PSU is an 350w. So, you could get the 4670 HERE, though it says 400w, or the Nvidia 240 HERE. You will have to upgrade your PSU to get the 4890, or the 5770 in. But, any standard ATX type PSU will fit into that case.

      

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JMICHAEL
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

I would give the HD 5770 a try.  It will probably work fine on the 350 watt power supply.  The 4890 would be a bit too much though.  Here is a chart to look at.  It would seem that the 5770 doesn't use any more power than a 9600 GT I used to run on the 350W PSU and I never had any problems.  I pictured your MOBO below.  It does not seem like there would be a fit problem as long as you did not have a PCIe x1 card which most do not.  My I530 has a very similar board and I have the GTS 250 in it which is larger than the HD 5770.

 

 

 

 


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Psychovadge
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Thanks Chaps ! I got the 430MT (on a very good deal!) instead of a much more expensive gaming system and thought I'd shot myself in the foot !

I think I'll try the 5770 but for the money involved will probably upgrade the PSU in case. I read several threads which said you can't fit a bigger card than a GTS240 or something like that in (9800GT?) and I need the speed for Empire/Napoleon etc. Would a 5770 block other ports though ?

Well, best get ordering.

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Yeowj
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

What are the possibilities should the PSU not be powerful enough with the addition of a new graphics card such as the 5770?

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Psychovadge
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Hi Yeowj,

I think the previous posters have exlained it pretty well, it should work with the existing PSU, but if you need to (ie you may have other power hungry extras in your system) then it is fairly easy to swap it for a more powerful PSU.

If I ever receive my 430 (delayed another week...thanks Dell!) then I'll let you know. Having researched this a bit I will check the internal fit for a bigger graphics card when I get my machine and if I can, squeeze in a 5770 and possibly a 500w PSU aswell.

Siko

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Yeowj
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Hi Psychovadge. I just re-read over my initial question and it was very badly phrased. What I meant to say was if my power supply was not powerful enough to run the hardware in my computer what would happen?

Would the hardware simply not start?
Assuming that the hardware starts, would there be a risk of it crashing and/or damaging other components such as GPU or motherboard?
Would the PSU blow up? 

If I was to buy the 5770, would a PCI express sound card fit underneath this graphics card? The space from the pictures of the motherboard above, lead me to believe the gap is very small. 

As part of my upgrades, I'm thinking 450W power supply (easy enough). I'm guessing the supply from my full tower should fit in this mini tower.
Graphics card - ATi 5770 or equivilent Nvidia
PCI-express X-Fi Sound card, or old Soundblaster 5.1 card
Wireless PCI adapter for networking
1tb hard drive (If I swap out the Dell 160gb hard drive, can I install and use the licensed version of Windows on this drive?

Thanks for the help. 

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2ndtimer
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

I just re-read over my initial question and it was very badly phrased. What I meant to say was if my power supply was not powerful enough to run the hardware in my computer what would happen?
  If it was WAY underpowered, it wouldn't even boot.  Otherwise, it would probably suffer intermittent crashes until you fried the overworked power supply.  Frying the power supply could take some other components with it, if you get to that point. 

If I was to buy the 5770, would a PCI express sound card fit underneath this graphics card? The space from the pictures of the motherboard above, lead me to believe the gap is very small.

 The PCI card should fit, almost all the Radeon 5770 cards are dual slot, meaning they take up two of the available slots on the motherboard.  As long as the motherboard in the Vostro 430 has a full space between the PCI-Ex16 slot and the next PCI slot, you should be okay.  My Vostro 220 does not have the space, so I lost the use of one of my PCI slots when I installed my graphics card.  Not a problem since I use the onboard sound and a USB Wireless network adapter.

 

1tb hard drive (If I swap out the Dell 160gb hard drive, can I install and use the licensed version of Windows on this drive?

You would probably need to clone your existing drive to the new drive in order to use the licensed version of Windows on the new drive.  Check with Dell support to make sure.  When I upgraded my drive from the factory 250 gb Seagate to a new Western Digital 500 gb drive, I downloaded Acronius from the Western Digital website.  It even cloned the hidden partition which contains the factory restore data.  The only downside is that it created new partitions in the same percentage as the cloned drive, so my factory restore partition is 20 gb in size even though the data contained in it is only 6 gb.  So it essentially wastes 14 gb of storage.  Also, if I am not mistaken, replacing the factory hard drive will probably void your warranty.  (Unless you keep the original drive and replace it prior to sending it back for repairs, I suspect)  Adding the 5770 video card may do the same thing.

The only other concern I would express to you is to make sure that the Dell 350 Watt power supply has the 6 pin PCI-E power connector available.  I note that the graphics card options are only the Nvidia 310, the Nvidia 220GT and the NVidia 240 GTS, none of which require the exra power connector.  That would be my only concern with the stock 350W power supply.  If you plan to upgrade the power supply, the question is moot.  If the standard PSU doesn't offer the 6 pin power connector, maybe you should consider the RAdeon HD5670 instead.  Less performance, but much less power required (does not have the 6 pin power connector).  And still decent performance, significantly beating the GT240.

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Yeowj
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

Thanks 2ndtimer. Your post was extremely helpful and cleared up a few questions that were bugging me.

I've decided to transfer an old 250gb hard drive into the Dell. The Radeon 5770 takes up two slots, so I'll lose the PCI-express slot. I'll just transfer the PCI sound card from my old computer to the Dell.

In time, stuff like hard drives will only get cheaper, so I'll either wait for them to drop in price, or perhaps get an SSD when they are more affordable. 

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Psychovadge
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Re: Dell Vostro 430 Graphics Card Upgrade

For anyone interested, I got my Sapphire Vapour-x 5770 and OCZ 500w PSU today. Despite having the technical ability of a small fish, i managed to install both in about 20 mins.

It was really easy and I am convinced you could fit a much bigger card in there, also there is a gap between the pci-e and the next pci so I haven't lost any space - I think !

It runs like a dream now - in windows experience I get 7.5 odd on everything bar the HDD.

Do it!

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