Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

Yes. 
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Rambler358
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Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

Well they don't, and likely won't.  You can't blame Dell for that.
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Drange
2 Iron

Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

No, but I can blame them for not saying it on their sales webpage.
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Rambler358
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Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

For not saying what?
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chembane
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Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

    OK, I have waited all day for a response from Dell about whether or not these 630i's with the x2 gpu cards were in fact shipped with 750 chips.  Getting a bit perturbed now.  Chris_M can you clarify this matter or not?

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foehammer25
2 Iron

Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

"For not saying what? "

 

Rambler358, are you serious?  He just told you what should be on the website.  In fact, I think he told you more than once.  Also, what you are saying about ESA just isn't true.  The 650i motherboard has never been ESA certified by anyone, anywhere, at any time.  Take the MIO board out and there is no ESA functionality at all with the motherboard.  I don't care if Nvidia themselves come into this thread and state that the 650i motherboard is ESA compliant.  It would not be the truth.  Jury rigging the 650i motherboard may provide an emulation of an ESA compliant motherboard, but unless Nvidia changes the board itself it will never be ESA compliant.

 

Yes there are systems that are certified ESA compliant, then there are components that are certified ESA compliant.  The 650i motherboard is not one of those components.  The hack job Dell did with the 630 system allowed them to claim ESA certification for the system as a whole.  Nvidia was more than happy to post this fact on their web page (they are selling 650i motherboards to Dell).  But unless Nvidia changes the original architecture of the motherboard, it will never be ESA compliant as a component.

 

Funny how you changed your motherboard, then have the nerve to come on here and tell us that we should be happy with the 650i motherboard as it has been implemented by Dell.  Hypocritical FTL. 

 

Also, tell me how exactly you know that the majority of 630 users are not having problems.  You state alot of off the wall comments that you have absolutely no data to support.  If you do have data, please post it.  You do realize that there at many people who would never even know about ESA, nor detect any problems associated with it.  We have done alot of research on this topic, and even though sometimes we are wrong, we do know what we are talking about.

 

Look at your system specs dude.  You dont even have a 630i system anymore!  Well you do have the case still.

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Rambler358
3 Silver

Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

The only thing I can see Dell posting on their web site, is about the 8x PCIe lanes.  Dell has now removed references to LightFX 2.0, so that issue is mute now. 

 

What I stated about ESA is true.  And I never stated the Dell 630 motherboard was ESA certified, so don't go putting words in my mouth please.  And you are also incorrect about nVidia selling 650 motherboards to Dell.  Dell is licensing the ability to use the nVidia chipset - these are Dell branded motherboards.  In fact nVidia does not make motherboards, so please get your facts straight first before responding.

 

And I believe the "hack job" done on the motherboard by Dell was that users could add Crossfire GPU support if they wanted.  Other nVidia based boards don't support this.  This gives a lot of flexability to many more potential users.

 

Yes, I changed my motherboard for overclocking purposes, and I previously stated that.  I don't need to look at my system's specs to know what I have.  And again - I never stated that you should be happy with the motherboard if you're not.  Please don't continue to mis-quote me.

 

And how do I know the majority of 630 users are happy with their system?  There have been threads here on that very same question - the majority responded they were happy with it.  Just search here, and in the other DCF forums and on the web and you'll find the same.

 

I'm sorry you're not happy with your system.  I understand Dell will reimburse you, should you not want it anymore - just PM Chris_M and good luck!

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Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

yes but i beleive their quotes are " i am happy with it, DESPITE the problems "
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foehammer25
2 Iron

Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

"The only thing I can see Dell posting on their web site, is about the 8x PCIe lanes.  Dell has now removed references to LightFX 2.0, so that issue is mute now. "

 

I purchased my system while the LightFX 2.0 was being falsely advertised.  It is not mute to me.

 

"What I stated about ESA is true.  And I never stated the Dell 630 motherboard was ESA certified, so don't go putting words in my mouth please.  And you are also incorrect about nVidia selling 650 motherboards to Dell.  Dell is licensing the ability to use the nVidia chipset - these are Dell branded motherboards.  In fact nVidia does not make motherboards, so please get your facts straight first before responding."

 

My point remains regardless.  Nvidia is receiving money from Dell and is (i am sure) more than happy to comply with whatever Dell asks of them as far as certification goes.  Also, although you are correct that Nvidia doesn't make motherboards, they do make the chips that go on those motherboards.  The funtionality of the motherboards come from the chips that Nvidia makes.  I said motherboards because I figured most people consider a 650i motherboard as a "Nvidia motherboard".  Although, after Dell got done with their hacks, I would agree that it does not resemble your normal Nvidia chip based motherboard.

 

"What I stated about ESA is true.  And I never stated the Dell 630 motherboard was ESA certified, so don't go putting words in my mouth please.  And you are also incorrect about nVidia selling 650 motherboards to Dell.  Dell is licensing the ability to use the nVidia chipset - these are Dell branded motherboards.  In fact nVidia does not make motherboards, so please get your facts straight first before responding."

 

A big mistake on Dells part.  Good for marketing, poor for the systems themselves.  Yes this is simply opinion.  I would much rather have a normal properly funtioning Nvidia chipset based motherboard that I can actually upgrade with a more advanced video card, than the junk that Dell has put into its motherboard just so they can market Crossfire compatibility.  Which, btw, I have read isn't very good (though I am sure that is a minority opinion as well).

 

"Yes, I changed my motherboard for overclocking purposes, and I previously stated that.  I don't need to look at my system's specs to know what I have.  And again - I never stated that you should be happy with the motherboard if you're not.  Please don't continue to mis-quote me."

 

Ok I will quote my own thoughts then.  You have changed much more than just the motherboard.  I do not see any mention of that.  I agree with myself that you basically do not even have a 630i any longer.

 

"And how do I know the majority of 630 users are happy with their system?  There have been threads here on that very same question - the majority responded they were happy with it.  Just search here, and in the other DCF forums and on the web and you'll find the same."

 

I asked for data that you have.  I am not searching anything to prove my point, because I am not stating that the majority of people are dissatified with the 630i.  I am mearly stating that the majority of owners do not post here.  So you have no way to know what you are claiming.

 

I have asked to get a refund already.  But that is good advice.  Unfortunately, I have not heard from Dell regarding my request that Chris forwarded for me.  Would it surprise you if I never heard from Dell regarding my refund?  It would not surprise me at all.  In fact, it is what I expect.  Chris can only do so much.

 

BTW...you have done much more than changed your MB to OC better.  You have changed/upgraded your system to the point that it is unrecognizable as a 630i.  If you didn't mention that it was once a 630i, no one could tell what system brand you have.  I would have guessed custom.

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Durrthock
1 Nickel

Re: Dell Xps 630 Motherboard.

Dell told my that this board had 2 pcie x16 slots and 1 pcie x8 slot. lol
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