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Desktop Video Card Upgrades FAQ (7/27/2010)

If you upgraded your video card and/or power supply on a Dell PC, I need the following sent to me in a Private Message -
PC Model, Replacement video card, Replacement power supply (if applicable).
Note - LP means Low Profile.

XPS
410 Nvidia 8400GS
420 Nvidia 9800GT
630i Nvidia GTX280
720 Nvidia GTX470
730x Dual Nvidia GTX280, Dual Nvidia GTX285

Studio XPS
8100
Radeon HD5770, 350w to 500w epower power supply

Studio 540s Radeon 4650

 Dimension
(2350, 2400, 3000) with PCI slots only - Nvidia FX5200, Nvidia FX5600, Nvidia FX5700le, Nvdia 8400GS, Nvdia 9400GT, Radeon 9100, Radeon 9200SE, Radeon 9250
C521 LP Nvidia 9500GT
4600 Nvidia 7950GT, 250w to 650w power supply

Inspiron
530s Nvidia 9400 GT 
530 Nvidia 9800GT, Nvidia GTS250, 500w Antec NeoPower power supply
531 Nvidia 8500GT, 375w to 430w Antec NeoPower power supply

Vostro
220s Radeon 4550

Optiplex
GX260
Radeon HD5670 
GX270 Nvidia NV34 w/DMS-59, LP Nvidia NV34 w/DMS-59, Nvidia NV18, LP Nvidia NV18
GX280 Radeon HD4650, StarTech ATXPW400DELL 400W ATX12V Ver. 2.01
360 Radeon 4550

Precision
T3400 Radeon HD5770, Nvidia 9800 GT, LP Nvidia GTS250 Green Power

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insane_qq
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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Hello,

I have a Dell sudio xps 8000 with standard hardware: processor Intel i5 750, a 350watt power supply and a geforce gts240.

Now last week Nvidia came with the new GTX460. and I am really interested to switch my current card with that one. On several websites I found that this card also requires a 450Watt power supply (this is the same requirement as the gts240).

I also found on websites that the power consumption of the GTX460 should be similar to the GTX260 which is an upgrade option for this computer.

Now my questions:

Can I switch my Geforce gts240 for a GTX 460 without replacing the power supply??

and if not: what would be a wise alternative power supply?

 

If anyone could answer me I would be really pleased. And thanks in advance.

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Jiri Soukup
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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Hi Chris

sorry for my English, I hope my question will be clear

I have Optiplex GX520 with integrated videocard Inter(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family (224Mb). I would like to install video card:

 Zotac 8400 GS (ZT-84MEG4M-FSL) 256MB, PCI-E (this card is based on chip NVIDIA 8400GS)

Is this possible? Will the computer work properly? I heard that PC with integrated video cards does not manage power supply properly if new video card is installed.

Thanx for answer

 

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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Insane_QQ,

The Studio XPS 8000 350w power supply was validated with the following video cards. I cannot find any Dell documentation on the GTX460. Ati says the Radeon HD4870 requires a 500w power supply yet it works on our 350w power supply. Stands to reason that the GTX460 would work since both Ati and Nvidia overstate the power supply requirements.
GeForce GTX 260 P201N
GeForce GTS 240, P118N
GeForce 9300GE, M114N
GeForce GT220, M205
Radeon HD5670, M206
Radeon HD4870 RV770XT
Radeon HD4870 RV770, P117A
Radeon HD4350, M113

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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Jiri Soukup,

No idea, we never tested. You will have to check it for us and post the results.

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insane_qq
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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Thank you for the answer. I also have had contact with dell support on this. They say that the 350watt power supply is sufficiant for the GTX460. But there is a catch. all GTX460 cards require 2 times a 6-pin power connector and the 350watt power supply only has 1 of those connectors.

Now I do not know if there are any conversion cables from the available connectors to 6-pins....

Though if I would want a geforce GTX260 i also have a problem as far as I found the gtx260 that are sold seperatly also require 2 of those connectors while the gtx260 dell uses in this system has only pne 6-pin connector. The 2 replys a got from dell are:

 

"Thank you for contacting Dell hardware support. Please excuse the delayed reply. Because of unexpected several issues on our E-Mail Servers, many E-Mails were misrouted and this was the cause for the hold-up in the reply time. We are very sorry for this and hope you have comprehension with it.  
Anyway, I will do my best to help you with your query. 
 
According to the various tests which you can read on internet, GTX 460 really has similar (or even lower) power consumption as older GTX 260. So if your computer works fine with GTX 260, it should also work fine with GTX 460. 
 
If you had any other queries or questions, please don't hesitate and let me know. " 

after this I  asked about the power connectors. This because I found on the nvidia site that both the GTX260 and gtx460 require 2 of the 6-pin connectors. the reply from dell:


"I have checked the GTX 260 card which we mount into Studio XPS 8000 and it has only one 6-pin connector. That's why you don't have two 6-pin connectors in your computer. Therefore, it seems that it could be a problem to mount GTX 460 into your computer.

Maybe if you found some reduction cable which would create another 6-pin connector, the card might work. However, we have never tested it, so I cannot guarantee the functionality of this setup. Furthermore, in the case that the computer's power supply couldn't handle two 6-pin connectors and it would break down, you would cause the warranty void.

If you had any other queries or questions, please don't hesitate and let me know."

 

So now I got a question: Can I somehow create a second 6-pin power connector??



 

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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Other than the one 6pin that will go to the video card, list all other available power supply leads.

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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

I am afraid that those options are quit poor. The power connectors that I have left:

Two  serial ata power connectors (called P7 on the wires) (these are the kind of power connecters modern HDD's can connect to)

and one serial ata connector which is smaller (called P4 on the wire)

So in total I have only 3 connectors left. (this is ofcource besides the already existing 6-pin connector that is powering my currect video card)

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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

Check here for a sata to 6-pin converter. You can then look for one locally at Frys or another electronics store.

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insane_qq
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Re: Video Card Upgrades FAQ (It's time to build a new one)

thanks very much. I will try this.

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