speedstep
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Re: Firewire?

Movie Editing software does not natively come with any windows.

You don't have a Mac.

The best solution for Firewire Video cam is Studio Moviebox Plus USB2 Capture w/Mic and Greenscreen .

Its a FIREWIRE TO USB device that also includes software for windows.

  • Manufacturer: Pinnacle
  • Model number: 230100130
  • Product type: Video input adapter
  • Enclosure type: External
  • Interface type: Hi-Speed USB
  • Type: Video capture adapter
  • Form factor: External
  • Interface type: S-video input, S-video output, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), composite video input/output
  • Analog video format: NTSC, SECAM, PAL
  • Analog video signal: S-Video, composite video
  • Digital video format: MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, AVI, DV, MJPEG, DivX, WMV
  • Still image format: JPEG, BMP, TIFF, TGA, WMF
  • Audio input support: Standard
  • Interfaces: 1 x display / video - composite video input - RCA, 1 x display / video - composite video output - RCA, 1 x display / video - S-video input - 4 pin mini-DIN, 1 x display / video - S-video output - 4 pin mini-DIN, 2 x IEEE 1394 (FireWire) - 6 pin FireWire, 1 x audio - input - RCA, 1 x audio - output - RCA


The card I am referring to is Dell PN  H924H


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kr236rk
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Re: Firewire?

Thanks but I am really confused now. You are showing me two pictures of different PCI cards, a Dell PN  H924H and a 'MIA' card I don't know what it is. Are either of these compatible with an Inspiron 531 please?

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kr236rk
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Re: Firewire?

Pinnacle firewire-to-usb2 box looks cool thanks but I am not about to go back to a Pinnacle edit software - I started out on Pinnacle about 10 years ago and it went belly up on me; my current edit software is by Serif and it is brilliant - knocks Roxio into a cocked hat as well. Are there any generic firewire-to-usb converters out there please, they look like an extremely good idea if they work.

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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

Just found this - the reason for using firewire as opposed to SD card mpeg captures, is that firewire captures author you a potentially much heavier / better quality AVI file. The following post suggests that transferring firewire through usb compromises the result, which defeats the whole process - if high quality video is what you want?

Post 10: "USB is no good for full quality capture from a miniDV camcorder as it just isn't up to the data transfer rates required. However there is a device that will capture from firewire and connect to a PC via USB, but this captures to a compressed (so not full quality) format - Pinnacle Studio Moviebox"

www.avforums.com/.../773378-firewire-usb-converter.html

PSMB looks like the earlier version of the Pinnacle box in the vid above.

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speedstep
6 Thallium

Re: Firewire?

"Post 10: "USB is no good for full quality capture from a miniDV camcorder as it just isn't up to the data transfer rates required. "  This statement is correct if referring to USB 1.1 but not USB 2.0

This is an uniformed user.  USB 1.1 is too slow 12 Mbit/s .  USB 2.0 is not.

 This is also why Apple and everyone else Dropped firewire completely because USB 2.0 and Firewire 400 speeds are comparable. The 400 is in reference to maximum signaling rate of 400 Mbit/s

USB 2.0: Released in April 2000. Added higher maximum signaling rate of 480 Mbit/s

Full-quality DV can also be captured via USB by using separate hardware that receives

DV data from the camcorder over a firewire cable and forwards it without any transcoding to the computer via a USB cable. Sony DCR-PC1000 camcorder and some Panasonic camcorders that provide transfer of a full-quality DV stream via USB by using the UVC protocol. UVC v1.1 supports transmission of compressed video streams, including MPEG-2 TS, H.264, MPEG-4 SL SMPTE VC1 and MJPEG.

VersionDateDescription
1.0 September 4, 2003 Initial release
1.0a December 4, 2003 Add Additional Descriptor Subtypes for "Extension" types. FAQ: Added section 2.21 Interlaced Video
1.0b  ? Changes to FAQ only: Protocol STALL behavior, Current and Future Payload Header Formats
1.0c June 5, 2004 Changes to FAQ only: Added Motion JPEG Characteristics
1.1 June 1, 2005 Major update including among other things: New Documents specifying for Stream and Frame Based Payloads, Latency optimizations for Stream-based formats, Specification of Absolute and Relative Control relationship, Asynchronous controls behavior, change naming from "VDC" to "UVC", obsolete old formats and add new ones, add a flag to distinguish between dynamic and fixed frame rate devices (RR0043).
1.5 June 6, 2012 Added H.264 and VP8 payloads, and accompanying controls for video encoders. Included references to USB 3.0

Webcams were among the first devices to support the UVC standard and they are currently the most popular UVC devices. It can be expected that in the near future most webcams will be UVC compatible as this is a logo requirement for("Certified for Windows Vista").

A quick look at the top 10 best selling Camcorders on Amazon shows that only 1 camcorder out of 10 supports Firewire.



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speedstep
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Re: Firewire?

If you already have Video Software then the Dell Firewire card is the way to go.

No Idea what you mean by MIA There are over 28 sources of this exact card below including EBAY, Amazon, Dell Etc.

The card does not come with software.  Works in ANY Dell that has PCI 2.3 Slots and is supported by Dell as it is

specifically made for Dell and Dell systems.  If you do not have a Tower but rather a 531S then you would have to modify the bracket or

remove it to fit into your case.  There is probably a low profile bracket for this card but I have no idea what that would

be and doubt that its included with the Generic card. Likely this card has 2 part numbers one with Low profile and one standard.

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speedstep
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Re: Firewire?

Hi,

a) Which Dell computers - desktop or laptop - were issued with firewire ports as standard please?

b) Is there any reason a firewire port on a computer might not function?

Thank you

You are ignoring the basic information.  Pull out the card that is not working and look at the slot.

If it has 1 keyway game over its not EVER going to work period end.

There are wayyy to many Dells that come with firewire 1394 as an option Both Laptop and Desktop.

A current Laptop with 4 Pin Firewire would be the Latitude E6500.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-1097

This card specifically works with

This IEEE-1394a Controller Card provides IEEE-1394a functions for your system. The card enhances peripheral connections with speed, accuracy and ease. It delivers high data transfer rates and is ideal for transmitting large multimedia files. This product has been tested and validated on Dell systems. It is supported by Dell Technical Support when used with a Dell system.

Manufacturer Part# : C9214
Dell Part# : 341-1097

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kr236rk
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Re: Firewire?

"A quick look at the top 10 best selling Camcorders on Amazon shows that only 1 camcorder out of 10 supports Firewire."

This is unsurprising since firewire has been dropped by 99% of the dv industry. Now answer me this please, if usb2 is a parallel interface to firewire - and just as good - then why are there no usb2 cables capable of streaming high quality dv cam footage to hard drive please - streamed live, direct from the cam's sensor?

Any video file captured to SD card will already be compressed because cards cannot cope with the size of megabyte file created by a firewire direct capture to hard drive. Try it, and compare the file sizes of two identical shoots - one direct to hard drive by way of firewire and the other captured to SD card which is then plugged into the computer. You will find the firewire AVI file is much bigger than the SD card mpeg file.

This is another reason why I want to keep using firewire - for quality.

Many thanks.

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kr236rk
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Re: Firewire?

Edited: duplicate post - and I am receiving multiple notifications of single postings.

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speedstep
6 Thallium

Re: Firewire?

Dell supported questions have been answered.

There was a company that specifically made a USB to FIrewire Active Cable for Video Cameras.

It stopped making them after being sued by texas instruments over the Firewire Patent.

Anything further is Not Dell Supported or A Dell product.


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