kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

Thank you - you would need to qualify "there was a company that specifically made a USB to FIrewire Active Cable for Video Cameras" because it is not common knowledge and you provide no links.

My original question was which Dell computers - desktop or laptop - were issued with firewire ports as standard please? I received a list kindly. However there appears to be no definitive answer to this question. I have checked out Precision Workstaions credited with firewire for example, and discovered that some models were issued with and some without firewire, so firewire was not a standard fitting to this model at least. I would imagine in that case that firewire might have been an optional extra which some cutomers requested and others didn't?

I also asked if there were any reason a firewire port on a computer might not function, with specific reference to the Dell Inspiron 531. I am willing to purchase a Dell supported PCI firewire card for this computer (531) if I can be refunded in the event of it not functioning - no firewire cards on the 531 have ever worked, I still don't know why - I plug my cam into the firewire port and nothing happens, the port is to all intents and purposes dead even though the card has been properly, firmly connected to the PCI slot in the motherboard.

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rdunnill
5 Rhenium

Re: Firewire?

If you're still using XP, I suggest updating to 7, as it has better support and your problem might be solved. (Microsoft will be discontinuing support for XP in less than a year.)

Firewire is not an exotic technology and there's no reason a budget Firewire card should not work. However, unless you have some strong reason for using an older version of Windows, I'd suggest at least trying 7, which can be downloaded for free and used for up to 30 days.

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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

XP is the most reliable o/s I have encountered. However, the computer in question is a Del lInspiron  531 desktop - this one - that one I am typing on now. Originally it was Vista now it is upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium.

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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

This is what happens when I connect my cam to the Windows 7 Upgrade, Inspiron 531 - it is a profound mystery - please help me to solve it. I had the same trouble with Roxio 10 I think it was.

Device Manager shows both Firewire and cam recognised and functioning, so far so good.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/r_i_c_2007/firewiredevicemanager_zps7f71ffc3.jpg

But Movie Maker does not recognise cam.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/r_i_c_2007/firewire_moviemaker_zps121fe356.jpg

And Serif video editor does not recognise cam either - the blue window should show a preview of what is in the camera’s viewer - all you see is a solid blue.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p32/r_i_c_2007/firewireserif_zps3b7206d7.jpg

When I connect this cam to my Dell D-3000 [XP] I instantly get a message telling me a cam has been connected to the computer and asking me which program I would like to open it with. The 531 just remains inert, even though Device Manager clearly recognises both Firewire port and camcorder.

Absolutely baffled.

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rdunnill
5 Rhenium

Re: Firewire?

You might try a 1394 of a different manufacturer, like VIA. I think the $15 Rosewill cards use the VIA chipset.

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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

OK thanks, I'm going to go for a Dell recommended Firewire PCI Card. The owner's manual tells me I have a PCI 2.3 card slot/s so I can proceed.

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rdunnill
5 Rhenium

Re: Firewire?

AFAIK Dell didn't test any Firewire cards with the 531/Windows  7 configuration.

If you try the Rosewill card and it doesn't work, you can RMA it to Newegg for a partial refund.

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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

Thanks but I've gone for the Dell card now - second hand of course - I cannot face going under the bonnet tonite but when the replacement card arrives I will pull the other one and try and work out exactly what it is - it's been in that tower desktop for years and has never connected any cam to the computer, even though the 531 can see it and see the camcorder connected to it, which is weird.

 

Ps. I am over the pond so I can't use the traders you are kindly suggesting - not very easily anyway.

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speedstep
6 Thallium

Re: Firewire?

 

 

Thank you - you would need to qualify "there was a company that specifically made a USB to FIrewire Active Cable for Video Cameras" because it is not common knowledge and you provide no links.

 

There is no point in Qualifying a "Pixela PIX-UVCD/U1W FireWire to USB 2.0 Bridge Cable" because they are barred by injunction from

selling them due to a patent dispute with Texas Instruments."  This is also why TI Chipset is recommended because Windows comes with Drivers.

The card you have is an NEC chipset.  That card is Not a Dell Product nor is the video editing software. 

http://www.pixela.co.jp/en/products/tv_capture/pix_uvcd_u1w/index.html

 

 


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kr236rk
3 Silver

Re: Firewire?

Am still getting multiple reply notifications, I don't know why - but thank you. Are you telling me Dell author a video editing program? As for the card, which I have now ordered, I sincerely hope it is of the 'plug and play' variety because there is no mention of drivers for it. As this is a 'Dell card' I would presume the drivers are already on board? I hope so. Concerning the mythical usb-to-firewire cable, did anyone ever try it out please, was it approved by Dell? I don't understand the Texas injunction, was it over the name "Firewire"? If so there are dozens if not hundreds (thousands? more?) of vendors using this name now. Here's a converter - 'converts USB 'A' female to IEEE 1394 FIREWIRE 6 pin male'  - quite cheap - a bargain? Should I go for it?  www.ebay.co.uk/.../140969038066

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