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There is a godSmiley Very Happy It is working at last.  I removed the xp pro disc inserted my mini sd card with a fresh download of the sata drivers,put in my geniune copy of XP sp2 Home and got a different menu this time.  It asked me what type of computer I had and went on to laod nvidia sata drivers. Admittedly it tried to load windows on to my minisd card but all I had to do was scroll down to my, at that moment unrecognised HDD, and creat a partition and then format, which is where im at now.   Thanks to all who tried helping.
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Ignore last post it failed.  I have solved it now though. I slipstreamed this file

 

R176216.exe into windows and it finally worked.  I was attempting to include the wrong file before.
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Another update I keep getting BSOD. Not sure if theres a hardware fault or xp upgrade incapability problem. Consider this topic unsolved. Also my C: drive is now I: drive.

 

 I did not debug before using seagate disk wizard to wipe the HDD.  Could this be the reason for the odd behaviour and bsod's 

Message Edited by Maturecheese on 06-01-2008 03:40 AM
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@Maturecheese wrote:

Another update I keep getting BSOD. Not sure if theres a hardware fault or xp upgrade incapability problem. Consider this topic unsolved. Also my C: drive is now I: drive.


Hello Maturecheese, I promised myself I would not get involved with other's issues any longer since I have be ridiculed by others, not you, about my advise on istalling OS on Dell or any other systems. The reason the OS is being seen as something other than the C: drive is because you have a second partition on the hard drive. Windows XP sees this and installs to this partition, which is what you may want but want it to be seen as C: The system will boot to this partition, as you have been able to do, so how is the information valid from MS, that a Windows version will only boot to a C: partition. This is untrue, as you have seen. I have encountered this problem when using 2 or more hard drives. The install goes as expected but when you boot into Windows, you see the boot drive as some other letter than C: so the "C:" only boot drive theory is debunked. After learning this, I always disconnect every drive except the one I want the OS to be installed on and that solves this issue. Now since you have partitioned you single hard drive into a second partition, you cannot disconnect the drive. The only way I have found around this would be to erase all the data on the first partition because the Windows OS wants to boot from the first partition of the hard drive. I don't know how your system is configured, or if you still have Vista installed. We just don't have enough information to be able to give any more advise without more information. Hope this helps.

 

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Thanks Boyd.  I am already in the process of using DBAN to wipe the drive.  I can't remember but I may have left my mini sd in the card reader when installing my slipstreamed XP and that may have caused it.  It apears that there are no xp drivers for the X-FI sound card that was fitted so I have removed that so as to lessen the chances of hardware conflict.  I will try again tomorrow with R176216.exe on my mini sd.  I have a question about drivers on Nvidia's site but I'll start a new thread for that one.
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@Maturecheese wrote:
Thanks Boyd.  I am already in the process of using DBAN to wipe the drive.  I can't remember but I may have left my mini sd in the card reader when installing my slipstreamed XP and that may have caused it.  It apears that there are no xp drivers for the X-FI sound card that was fitted so I have removed that so as to lessen the chances of hardware conflict.  I will try again tomorrow with R176216.exe on my mini sd.  I have a question about drivers on Nvidia's site but I'll start a new thread for that one.

 

Hello Maturecheese, You have really had problems with trying to install XP on your Dell system. Just so I can be brought up to date, are you just doing one OS on the hard drive, but want to have a second partition for another purpose? Since you stated there are no XP drivers for your sound card, I would remove it right now, just to get XP installed and then work on that issue later. Some have also had to disconnect the card reader as well because XP sees it as another drive. I seem to remember I saw that there may be XP drivers for that however. I have not followed you attempts lately, since I stopped coming to the Dell Forums, but installing XP on your system should not be all that difficult. Many have done it. Since the slipstream seems not to be working, and all else fails because of the SATA drivers, and that seems to be the issue confronting you now, you could just acquire a floppy drive, you may already have one, and just connect it temperorily outside the case laying on the table. All you need is a floppy ribbon cable, and the power cable from the power supply, go into the BIOS and make sure the floppy is enabled, save the BIOS settings, insert the floppy with the Pre-OS install drivers that you have or get from Dell, reboot the system and when you see the Press F6 for drivers, do it, and the install process will continue. No need to ground the floppy. At some point XP will want to reboot and advise you to remove the floppy disk from the drive. Do it and reboot. If you are successful with the OS install, shut the system down, unplug the power cord from the tower, remove the cables connected to the floppy from the system, reboot and disable the floppy in the BIOS and your system should work. As far as the Nvidia drivers, go to nvidia.com and download the latest drivers for your video card and OS. Keep us posted. Hope this helps.
Message Edited by Boyd B on 06-01-2008 11:55 AM
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If all else fails I will do that as I have floppy drives hanging around but I,ll try the card reader once more.  I am trying to install xp on one partition using the whole drive.  If I want more than one partition I can do that later from within windows.  I removed sound card yesterday. Hopefully I will post possitive news tomorrow as DBAN wont be done until around 2-3 this morning.
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That sounds great. Just remember that XP will see the card reader as another hard drive, and maybe show up with several drive numbers or partition sizes, so when you select which drive you want to install XP on, make sure it is the 750 GB hard drive. If XP installs and then shows up as any other drive number than C:, you cannot change this from within Windows. As far as I know another install would be required, however I am not certain about this. I have had this scenario occur so that is why I disconnect all the other drives before hand. Keep us posted.
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The problem I have with using a floppy is that the file I mentioned earlier(R176216.exe) for sata drivers is too big for a floppy. Im sure it can be trimmed down to the minimum needed to fit on a floppy but I would need to know exactly what files to put on and I don't . Asking chris M appears to be a waste of time as its probably against Dell policy.

 

I think when R176216.exe unzipped its  IDE/Winxp/sata_ide  the files in this folder. It could be IDE/Winxp/sataraid.

 

It would be nice if someone could confirm which folder to use, PleaseSmiley Happy 

Message Edited by Maturecheese on 06-01-2008 03:09 PM
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Hello Maturecheese, I see your delima. However, There may be a solution. You may try this. Your system seems to be Nvida chipset. I checked the R176216 driver under the XPS 630. I believe this is your system model and it showed the chipset driver above. It is something like 16 MB or so. I downloaded this file and extracted it but canceled when it showed it to be installing. I then went into this folder. C:\dell\drivers\R175118\IDE\WinXP\sata_ide and you will find the drivers. Notice the folder changed from R276216 to R175118. There are actually 7 files in the folder. You may or may not need all of these but since they total only 499.12 bytes (size on disk) I would copy them all to a floppy. They should fit on a floppy disk. If you need, I can list the names of these files. Keep me posted.
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