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October 26th, 2010 09:00

JY167 heatsink on Inspiron 530D.

Hello, I have a E2160 CPU.

 

It doesn't get the job done and is weak for newer games.  Would I be able to replace the E2160 with a E5400 and up processor ?  Or will it not cool it right ?

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October 26th, 2010 10:00

 ROFLCOPTERSOI

Yes, the E5400 should fine, see HERE

Here is a list of other supported Core 2 Duo processors for the 530.

Wolfdale Core 2 Duo, E5200, 2.5GHz, 2MB, 65W, M0
Wolfdale Core 2 Duo, E7400, 2.8GHz, 3MB, 65W, R0
Wolfdale Core 2 Duo, E8400, 3.0GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, 65W, E0
Wolfdale Core 2 Duo, E8500, 3.16GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, 65W, C0

The default heatsink should be fine for the above CPU's

Note:  Prior to installing processor you need to check that you have BIOS Version 1.0.15, or higher, when support for new Intel CPU's was added.

Bev.

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October 26th, 2010 11:00

The heatsink is minor compared to the other "issue"

Dell JY167 Heatsink & Fan Assembly
The power supply in low ended systems is not the 350w version.
When you add faster more power hungry cpus you may need to replace the power supply.
The Bios may also need to be replaced AND you may need to update the bios BEFORE trying a newer cpu.

Given the different technology you may not be able to do this at all  The CPUID and 65 vs 45nm  may be an insurmountable problem.
Depends on which motherboard you have.
The 0FM586 motherboard can be used for both Quad 4 & Core 2 Duo processors.

F824K Yorkfield Quad Core, Q8200, 2.33GHz, 4MB, 1333FSB, M1
K213N Yorkfield Quad Core, Q8300, 2.50GHz, 4MB, 95W,R0
C863D Yorkfield Quad Core, QX9300, 2.50GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, M1
N650J Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9400, 2.66GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, R0
C864D Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9450, 2.66GHz, 12MB, 1333FSB, C1
C865D Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9550, 2.83GHz, 12MB, 1333FSB, C1
F886J Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9550, 2.83GHz, 12MB, 1333FSB, E0
N652J Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9650, 3.00GHz, 12MB, 1333FSB, E0

MP626 Kentsfield Quad Core, Q6600, 2.4GHz, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0

T115K Wolfdale Dual Core, E5200, 2.5GHz, 2MB, 65W, M0
K151N Wolfdale Dual Core, E7400, 2.8GHz, 3MB, 65W, R0
H399J Wolfdale Dual Core, E8400, 3.0GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, 65W, E0
Y934C Wolfdale Dual Core, E8500, 3.16GHz, 6MB, 1333FSB, 65W, C0


4GB RAM(Inspiron 530a/b/d), 8GB (Inspiron 530c)


Dual-Core Processor E2160
1.8GHz 800Mhz FSB  Socket 775
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLA8Z.html
Manufacturing technology (micron)    0.065 
TDP 65W
VID .85 - 1.50v
CPUID    06FDh
Core stepping    M0

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SLGTK.html
Dual-Core Processor E5400
2.7GHz 800Mhz FSB  Socket 775
Manufacturing technology (micron)    0.045
Frequency (GHz)    2.7
Bus speed (MHz)       800
CPUID    01067Ah
Core stepping    R0


Dell Part Numbers: FM586 0FM586
Compatible with: Dell Inspiron 530 530S
Manufacturer: Foxconn
Manufacturers Model Number: DG33M03

Specifications:

Socket: LGA775
CPU: (Max Support) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700, Q6600, E6550, E4600
FSB: Bus 1333MHz
Chipset: Intel G33 Express Chipset
Memory: DDR2 677/800MHz SDRAM (Max DIMM Slots 4 – Max Memory Support 4GB
Expansion Slots:
PCI Express: x16 x 1
PCI Expressx1: x 1
PCI: x 2
SATA Ports: 4
RAID: 0/1 Support
Floppy: 1
Ethernet/LAN: Intel PRO/1000 Network 10/100/1000-Mbps
Audio Integrated: Realtek ALC88 HD Audio internal 7.1 channel sound
Video Integrated: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100
VGA Monitor Connector: VGA






 

October 26th, 2010 11:00

I got rid of the ... Bestek (use your imagination).  When I put in a new Video card and got a 400Watt corsair.

 

The BIOS is 1.0.18 (latest).

 

My motherboard is the 0RY007 I think, no quad support.

 

So will I be able to use a wolfdale ?


how can it have a larger power need when it's still 65 watts?

October 26th, 2010 12:00

off topic: The 9500GT is junk compared to the 4670 even.

 

Anyway Bev, why is his E5400 running in the 40s with normal use?   My E2160 is 30-33 normal use, and about 43-45 and on rare times (like hours and hours of gaming) I see 53C.

 

I heard that the wolfdale should be running LESS temps than a Conroe ?

October 26th, 2010 13:00

 

 

OK.  So the E5400 at 2.7GHz @ 800MHz will be fine?  How about this for the paste: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100014 .

 

What temps should I be worried about, and what temps are acceptable for the E5400 ?

And I know that, but I went ahead and was safe by putting in a 400 watt corsair to go along with the new video card while I had the money.

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October 26th, 2010 13:00

 

 

The BURNING question is does it support Wolfdale at 1066 or 1333mhz FSB?

 

Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.53G wolfdale E7200 1066 3MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E7300 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.93G wolfdale E7500 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8190 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8200 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.83G wolfdale E8300 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.0G wolfdale E8400 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.16G wolfdale E8500 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.33G wolfdale E8600 1333 3MB*2 65W P*

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October 26th, 2010 13:00

 The BURNING question is does it support Wolfdale at 1066 or 1333mhz FSB?

Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.53G wolfdale E7200 1066 3MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E7300 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.93G wolfdale E7500 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8190 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8200 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.83G wolfdale E8300 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.0G wolfdale E8400 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.16G wolfdale E8500 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.33G wolfdale E8600 1333 3MB*2 65W P*

Both, as posted I'm using a Wolfdale E8400, 1333MHz FSB in my 530mt.

Bev.

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October 26th, 2010 13:00

I got rid of the ... Bestek (use your imagination).  When I put in a new Video card and got a 400Watt corsair.

 

The BIOS is 1.0.18 (latest).

 

My motherboard is the 0RY007 I think, no quad support.

 

So will I be able to use a wolfdale ?


how can it have a larger power need when it's still 65 watts?

I am a user  not a working for Dell Engineer.

RY007 I believe is the G33M02 motherboard.

So Wolfdale may be out of the question.

Updating Bios doesn't fix the motherboard chipset.

Its like the GX110 motherboards.  Some could take the Tulatin and Some Cannot based on the revision of the

motherboard and INTEL chipset used.

So the answer is a definite maybe.

I would stick with the CPUs that have 800mhz FSB.  The older boards probably crash and Burn Literally at 1333mhz fsb.

http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusupportlist.aspx?type=mb&model=G33M&cputype=

 

Compatibility for Intel : Socket 775 : G33M / PCB Ver : 1.0A / BIOS Ver : 722F1P37
Result Description: P = Tested Pass, P* = Tested Pass (Engineering Sample CPU)
CPU Name Core Cpu No. FSB (Mhz) L2 Cache Wattage Result
Intel  Celeron  1.60G Conroe-L 420 800 512KB 35W P
Intel  Celeron  1.80G Conroe-L 430 800 512KB 35W P
Intel  Celeron  2.00G Conroe-L 440 800 512KB 35W P
Intel  Celeron  2.20G Conroe-L 450 800 512KB 35W P*
Intel  Celeron  2.5G Dual Core E3300 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Celeron® Dual-core  1.60G Conroe E1200 800 512KB 65W P
Intel  Celeron® Dual-core  2.40G Conroe E1600 800 512KB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Extreme  2.66G Kentsfield QX6700 1066 4MB*2 130W P
Intel  Core™2 Extreme  2.93G Kentsfield QX6800 1066 4MB*2 130W P
Intel  Core™2 Extreme  3.00G Kentsfield QX6850 1333 4MB*2 130W P
Intel  Core™2 Extreme  3.0G Yorkfield QX9650 1333 12MB 130W P
Intel  Core™2 Extreme  2.93G Conroe X6800 1066 4MB 75W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  1.80G Conroe E4300 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.00G Conroe E4400 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.20G Conroe E4500 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.40G Conroe E4600 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.60G Conroe E4700 800 2MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  1.86G Conroe E6300 1066 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  1.86G Conroe E6320 1066 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.13G Conroe E6400 1066 2MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.13G Conroe E6420 1066 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.33G Conroe E6540 1333 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.33G Conroe E6550 1333 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.40G Conroe E6600 1066 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G Conroe E6700 1066 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G Conroe E6750 1333 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.00G Conroe E6850 1333 4MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.53G wolfdale E7200 1066 3MB 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E7300 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.93G wolfdale E7500 1066 3MB 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8190 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.66G wolfdale E8200 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  2.83G wolfdale E8300 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.0G wolfdale E8400 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.16G wolfdale E8500 1333 3MB*2 65W P
Intel  Core™2 Duo  3.33G wolfdale E8600 1333 3MB*2 65W P*
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.40G Kentsfield Q6600 1066 4MB*2 105W P
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.40G Kentsfield Q6600 1066 4MB*2 95W P
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.66G Kentsfield Q6700 1066 4MB*2 95W P
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.33G Yorkfield Q8200 1333 4MB 95W P*
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.50G Yorkfield Q8300 1333 4MB 95W P*
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.50G Yorkfield Q9300 1333 6MB 95W P
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.66G Yorkfield Q9450 1333 12MB 95W P
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  2.83G Yorkfield Q9550 1333 12MB 95W P*
Intel  Core™2 QUAD  3.0G Yorkfield Q9650 1333 12MB 95W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  1.60G Conroe E2140 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  1.80G Conroe E2160 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  2.00G Conroe E2180 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  2.20G Conroe E2200 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  2.40G Conroe E2220 800 1MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium Dual-core  2.50G wolfdale E5200 800 2MB 65W P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.40G Prescott 551 800 1MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.60G Prescott 560 800 1MB 115W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.60G Prescott 560J 800 1MB 115W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.80G Prescott 570J 800 1MB 115W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.80G Prescott 571 800 1MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.00G Prescott 630 800 2MB 84W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.00G Cedar Mill 631 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.00G Cedar Mill 631 800 2MB 86W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.20G Prescott 640 800 2MB 86W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.20G Cedar Mill 641 800 2MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.40G Prescott 650 800 2MB 84W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.40G Cedar Mill 651 800 2MB 65W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.40G Cedar Mill 651 800 2MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.60G Prescott 660 800 2MB 115W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.60G Cedar Mill 661 800 2MB 86W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.60G Prescott 662 800 2MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.80G Prescott 670 800 2MB 115W P
Intel  Pentium® 4  3.80G Prescott 672 800 2MB NA P*
Intel  Pentium® D  2.80G Smithfield 820 800 1MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.00G Smithfield 830 800 1MB*2 130W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.20G Smithfield 840 800 1MB*2 130W P
Intel  Pentium® D  2.80G Presler 915 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  2.80G Presler 920 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.00G Presler 925 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.00G Presler 930 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.00G Presler 930 800 2MB*2 NA P*
Intel  Pentium® D  3.20G Presler 935 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.20G Presler 940 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.20G Presler 940 800 2MB*2 NA P*
Intel  Pentium® D  3.40G Presler 945 800 2MB*2 95W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.40G Presler 945 800 2MB*2 NA P*
Intel  Pentium® D  3.40G Presler 950 800 2MB*2 130W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.40G Presler 950 800 2MB*2 95W P*
Intel  Pentium® D  3.60G Presler 960 800 2MB*2 130W P
Intel  Pentium® D  3.60G Presler 960 800 2MB*2 NA P*

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October 26th, 2010 13:00

ROFLCOPTERSOI

I'm using a Wolfdale E8400, 1333MHz FSB in my 530mt, with the same Dell default heatsink, together with a 'Junk' GeForce 9500GT, using the Dell Bestec 300w PSU without any issues.

Dell's power supplies are underrated and grathic card manufacturers usually overstate the wattage required by their cards.

The  FoxConn G33m02 [Dell P/N ORY007] motherboard, does not support Core 2 Quad processors.

Bev.

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October 26th, 2010 14:00

ROFLCOPTERSOI

Arctic Silver AA-1.75G Thermal Compound will be fine, personally I use Arctic Silver 5.

As you reusing the heatsink, plan on cleaning it's base.

Directions for cleaning and applying thermal compound, are HERE.

I have installed a 80mm case fan in my 530 front panel under the hard drives, to pull more air into the case and help with the cooling.

Bev.

 

October 26th, 2010 14:00

Alright, so scrape off the old junk with rubbing alchohol, spread it on the heatsink after it dries with a credit card, wipe off excess with a coffee filter, put a thin line in the middle of the  CPU, screw the heatsink back on?

10 Elder

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October 26th, 2010 15:00

ROFLCOPTERSOI

Yep, that's just about it.

When installing the new processor, remember to orient the front and rear alignment-notches on the processor with the front and rear alignment-notches on the socket and align the pin-1 corners of the processor and socket.

Bev.

October 26th, 2010 15:00

Alrighty.  Sounds easy enough.  But what about the temps I should expect to worry/not worry about ?

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October 27th, 2010 06:00

If the heatsink isnt mounted correctly it will shut down.

I would not worry about that part.

 

October 27th, 2010 14:00

I used Prime85 for about 6 mins on my current system.

The speeds of the fan went up to 3154 RPMs and I could start to hear them for the first time ever besides boot up. Then the cores went up to 46C each. Soon as I stopped the test it dropped down to 33 C almost instantly and the speeds went back around the same speeds I've seen for the 2+ years. Which is in the range of 1730 RPMs.

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