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September 21st, 2011 11:00

Precision T3500 Processor Upgrade

We have 4 T3500's all with the W3503 Intel Xeon 2.4GHz Dual Core Processor. They all have the copper heatsinks. After a lot of research I found that they can be upgraded to any of the W35XX processors (just a question of what we want to pay). When I checked out the W3520, I found out that it was identical to the i7 920 processor.

Has anyone upgraded a T3500 with an i7 processor?

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September 22nd, 2011 12:00

DELL DPN: XPDFK Precision Workstation T3500 Motherboard

Supported Processors:

Intel Xeon 6-Core (X5670, X5650),

Intel Xeon Quad Core (W3550, W3565, W3530, E5640, E5630, E5507),

Intel Xeon Dual Core (W3505, W3503),

Intel Xeon (W3680)

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September 28th, 2011 01:00

Does any intel Xeon (above) work or does it have to be from Dell? Dell is x2 the price with its 6core..

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September 28th, 2011 05:00

Dell doesn't make Xeon processors.  That does not mean that ANY Xeon ANY series ANY vendor works.

If more than 1 is used they must match exactly stepping and revision aka "S" Spec.

Some vendors with cheap price cheat remarking processors. (I'm not going to get into how this is done) When you put it in your Dell and it frys or otherwise doesn't work they say you did something to it and refuse to refund your money.

It is a good idea to upgrade bios to the latest BEFORE trying to change to a different cpu.

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January 31st, 2014 21:00

Flash ahead to 2014, is it safe to say all Westmere family (5600 series) processors can be used in a XPDFK motherboard?

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September 8th, 2014 18:00

Yes I would very much like to know the answer to that question as well. Maybe it will be able to run all X56xx and W36xx CPU:s.

Also, I would love to know the maximum amount of RAM. There is a lot of conflicting data on this over the google searches I´ve run.

The technical manual says is only supports 24GB (if it´s ECC ram, not buffered) and only 12GB if its normal DDR3 10600 1333mhz standard ram. All dimms must be dual rank if you want to be able to run these configs, says the manual.

Then there are other sources saying that it can work using 6 x 8GB normal dimms, non buffered, non ECC - as long as it is Double/dual rank dimms in all dimm-slots.

What´s the correct answer? To know what you get on ebay, you really need to get all the data from the dimms to be able to tell these things. And If I contact Corsair about XMS-ram - they can not even answer me it their ram is dual, single or quad rank! Very confusing for someone who is not a wizard in ram-tech.

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September 9th, 2014 07:00

What kind of ram and how much in what configuration is well documented. If you want ram and want it to work use crucial's ram configurator and you are fine.

Any ole joes crab shack ram isnt compatible.  If you get it from cruical or from dell its guaranteed to be compatible.  The speed you need depends on which cpu you have and its FSB.  Ranks count also you cannot mix single rank and 2 rank and 4 rank ram.  Its not required but being all from the same vendor for the sets of 3 helps. There are also xeon processors that the 3500 motherboard supports that do not support ECC ram.

 

YOU CANNOT USE 8 GIG Dimms ever.

Recommended Upgrade

part image
Memory Type: DDR3 PC3-12800
Maximum Memory: 24GB
Slots: 6
T3500 memory configurator SR=Single Rank  DR = Dual Rank
You cannot mix and match

It is important to ensure that DIMMs with appropriate number of ranks are populated in each channel for optimal performance. Whenever possible, it is recommended to use dual-rank DIMMs in the system. Dual-rank DIMMs offer better interleaving and hence better performance than single-rank DIMMs.

For instance, a system populated with six 2GB dual-rank DIMMs outperforms a system populated with six 2GB single-rank DIMMs by 7% for SPECjbb2005. Dual-rank DIMMs are also better than quad-rank DIMMs because quad-rank DIMMs will cause the memory speed to be down-clocked.

Another important guideline is to populate equivalent ranks per channel. For instance, mixing one single-rank DIMM and one dual-rank DIMM in a channel is not recommended.

Size
(GB)
DIMM
Ranks
DIMM1 DIMM2 DIMM3 DIMM4 DIMM5 DIMM6 Channel
Mode
1 SR 1 GB           Single
2 SR 1 GB 1 GB         Dual
3 SR 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB       Tri
4 SR 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB     Tri
4 DR 2 GB 2 GB         Dual
6 SR 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB 1 GB Tri
6 DR 2 GB 2 GB 2 GB       Tri
12 DR 2 GB 2 GB 2 GB 2 GB 2 GB 2 GB Tri
12 DR 4 GB 4 GB 4 GB       Tri
24 DR 4 GB 4 GB 4 GB 4 GB 4 GB 4 GB Tri

 

 

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September 9th, 2014 07:00

My Guess is that all of these work

X58 Chipset

DELL PRECISION T3500 MOTHERBOARD

DP/N 9KPNV K095G XPDFK LGA1366 DDR3

 

Processor Name                                             Cores    TDP

Intel® Xeon® Processor W3565
(8M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
    
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3550
(8M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
     
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3580
(8M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
    
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3520
(8M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
    
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3540
(8M Cache, 2.93 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
     
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3570
(8M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W     
     
Intel® Xeon® Processor W3503
(4M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     2     130 W         

Intel® Xeon® Processor W3505
(4M Cache, 2.53 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     2     130 W         

Intel® Xeon® Processor W3530
(8M Cache, 2.80 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     4     130 W    

***********************************

Its NOT Clear that these will work but they might.

However ECC wouldn't be supported.

Intel® Core™ i7-980 Processor
(12M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 4.8 GT/s Intel® QPI)     6     130 W         

Intel® Core™ i7-990X Processor Extreme Edition
(12M Cache, 3.46 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI)     6     130 W          

Intel® Core™ i7-980X Processor Extreme Edition
(12M Cache, 3.33 GHz, 6.40 GT/s Intel® QPI)     6     130 W   

Intel® Core™ i7-970 Processor
(12M Cache, 3.20 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel® QPI)     6     130 W           

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September 11th, 2014 07:00

I'm running 24GB in my T3500 machine.  I wouldn't try anything more than the recommended.  If you need more memory capability, pick up a used T5500.  It is capable of 72GB & Dual Processors (5500 & 5600 series).  

Part Numbers I've found for the T3500 memory.

Dell P/N - SNPT192HC/4G

Hynix - HMT351U7AFR8C-H9 T0 AB

Samsung - M391B5273BH0-CH9

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September 30th, 2014 02:00

Hello,

What about Xeon X5650 with this motherboard - Dell LGA1366 XPDFK 9KPNV for Precision T3500?

Will it work?

Regards,

Nirav

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September 30th, 2014 06:00

Its unclear as there are T3500's on ebay that say X5675

This may be a revised motherboard and chipset.

X5650 6 Cores Requires Intel® Server Board S5520HCT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISION-T3500-XEON-X5675-SIX-CORE-3-06GHZ-CPU-24GB-MEM-160GB-FX1800-/171383001511?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item27e73911a7

 

Lithography 32 nm
Max TDP 95 W
VID Voltage Range 0.750V-1.350V

 

W3520 4 Cores

Lithography 45 nm
Max TDP 130 W
VID Voltage Range 0.800V-1.375V

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September 30th, 2014 06:00

Cannot advise as this product AND those CPU's are no longer made and haven't been for 4 years. 

The Dell Site DOES SAY

Lithography 45 nm

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&sku=317-1329

 

Manufacturer Part# : J703R
Dell Part# : 317-1329

Xeon X5570 2.93 GHz Quad Core Processor for Dell Precision WorkStation T3500/ T5500/ T7500

 

T3500 Motherboard LGA1366 XPDFK K095G 9KPNV

I do not know what the difference is between the 3 versions of the motherboard or why the Supported Processors are listed as:

The 5570 is 45nm

http://ark.intel.com/products/37111/Intel-Xeon-Processor-X5570-8M-Cache-2_93-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI



Intel Xeon 6-Core (X5670, X5650) 32nm ???

Intel Xeon Quad Core (W3550, W3565, W3530, E5640, E5630, E5507),

Intel Xeon Dual Core (W3505, W3503),

Intel Xeon (W3680)

The Original spec sheet says

http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-Precision-T3500-Spec-Sheet.pdf

 

Intel® Xeon® 3600 or 3500 series processors with up to six-cores and up to 6.4GT/s (Intel QuickPath Interconnect) and up to 12MB shared cache; Turbo Boost Mode on select processors; All processors are 64-bit, support Intel DBS (demand-based switching) and Intel VT (Intel Virtualization Technology) Note: Intel TXT is not supported. Turbo Mode and HyperThreading technology on select processors.

 

 The Late 2010 Spec sheet says.

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/precn/en/q2wk6_dell_precision_t3500_spec_sheet.pdf

 

  Intel® Xeon® 5600 series processors up to six-cores with up to 6.4GT/s (Intel QuickPath Interconnect) and up to 12MB shared cache. Turbo Boost Mode on select processors
All processors are 64-bit, support Intel DBS (demand-based switching) and Intel VT (Intel Virtualization Technology) Note: Intel TXT is not supported. Turbo Mode and HyperThreading technology on select processors

 Which leads me to believe that there is more than one motherboard Revision.

 

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September 30th, 2014 06:00

Hi,

You said above like..

DELL DPN: XPDFK Precision Workstation T3500 Motherboard

Supported Processors:

Intel Xeon 6-Core (X5670, X5650),...... etc/

I could also find the referance manual of T3500 mentioning that it supports XEON 5600 series. but in some manuals its written as it supports 5500 or 3500. 

This link says it does : http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/precn/en/q2wk6_dell_precision_t3500_spec_sheet.pdf

This says it does not :

http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-Precision-T3500-Spec-Sheet.pdf

http://data.technimax.cz/attach/artilky/precisiont3500technickymanual.pdf

Can you advise?

Regards,

Nirav

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September 30th, 2014 06:00

hello,

Thanks a ton for detailed answer and your help.

My motherboard is something like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181528911055?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Regards,

Nirav

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September 30th, 2014 07:00

I'm not willing to damage my T3500 trying out CPU'S that may kill the motherboard.

If you stick with 45nm processors you are likely fine.

There may also be bios version requirements for specific cpus.

I am NOT dell engineering and I do not have access to that information. A17 is the current Bios dated 06/07/2013.

http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverid=CN9VG

 


Enhancements
- Updated PSA-Diag from A4521 to A4527.
- Enhanced Broadcom onboard NIC 5761 support.
- Enhanced CCTK support for Turbo Boost setting.

 

 http://downloads.dell.com/FOLDER01514371M/1/T3500A17.exe

 

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September 30th, 2014 07:00

Just be be more precise..

Though Intel Xeon X5550 and X5650, both being in different range of families, they have been built on same architecture, built for same chitset, same connectors, except litho and TDP.

So my question is, if a board that supports Xeon 55XX series, would support Xeon X56XX series processors?

Thanks,

Nirav

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