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i-vol
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Studio XPS 435MT & 435T Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

Judging by Dell's current take on the overclocking subject, I imagine that it's true that the new i7 Studio XPS system cannot be overclocked even though other manufacturers using the 920 i7 solution report great results overclocking the i7.  Indeed, even CNET reviews such a system making the comparison between the Studio XPS pretty stark, given the similar specs elsewhere.  I believe they overclocked the Velocity Micro i7 920 system to 3.0GHz with no issues reported.

Is there a chance that Dell will be offering a BIOS upgrade that will allow the ability to safely overclock?  Or BIOS update to allow for 1333Mhz RAM to work as stated in the 435MT manual?

On a second issue, I've seen reports that the X58 chipset/board actually will allow for a maximum RAM of near 24GB, double the Dell's reported maximum of 12.  Will the Dell eventually allow for 24GB?  On the other hand, I've seen max 12 reports, too.  Just wondering where it will really fall for the ultimate upgrade.  EDIT:  Appears the 435T board will allow for 24GB (MT stands for Mini Tower and T stands for Tower).

Thanks for any insight here.

- kh

435MT  i7 920 • 6GB DDR3 1066Mhz Tri-Channel • 1.28TB 2x640GB ~ RAID 0 • 1TB WD eSATA|500GB USB
             ATI Radeon 4850 512MB
• 2 x DVD+/-RW • 24" HP w2408h HDMI @ 1920 x 1200
             435MT|435T Manual/Downloads/RAM Info 
•  System Performance Monitoring

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truelies
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

I also hope a bios for overclock. Also the current one is too simple, even doesn't display the fan speed.

i-vol
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

Indeed.  This is really a sticking point for me.  Although I fully understand that the average user of Dell gear is not going to be the overclocking type, nor will Dell really feel like providing tech support for loons pushing the clock on their beleaguered 360w power supply.  But truth be told, the i7 is easily overclocked with a more fitting BIOS and runs without issues. 

I would think the user would probably go ahead and opt for a larger power supply but again, this is probably not where Dell wants to head.  They have had numerous complaints stemming around the case fan which is mediocre, having just experienced one in the Studio 540 (Studio MT).   I think they would have been better served moving to larger PSU and a better case fan, leaving some margin for additional gear.   I imagine 2 hard drives, the ATI 4850, and some other additions would be pushing that PSU a bit, causing that case fan to blast into 1st gear.

Still, I have to say that Dell should REALLY consider offering a BIOS upgrade for those that want it.  It's just dumbing down the system a bit much. 

With people pushing the i7 920 till well into the 3.Xmhz territory, it would be a great alternative, with possible caveat attached regarding potential need for cooling/psu upgrade.

I hope DELL is listening.

kh

435MT  i7 920 • 6GB DDR3 1066Mhz Tri-Channel • 1.28TB 2x640GB ~ RAID 0 • 1TB WD eSATA|500GB USB
             ATI Radeon 4850 512MB
• 2 x DVD+/-RW • 24" HP w2408h HDMI @ 1920 x 1200
             435MT|435T Manual/Downloads/RAM Info 
•  System Performance Monitoring

pynnonen
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

I agree. It would be nice to have a BIOS with more options. I tried upgrading the fan (like a jet taking off once in while), but I when back to the original fan because of temperature issues. (Get the HWMonitor (free) from CPUZ). Also CPUZ (free) gives a lot of info.

Here is mine (I loaded Windows 7, 64 bit, on it, without even booting it to the Dell  standard installation):

Windows is listed as Vista 6.1

 

CPU-Z 1.50 report file

Processor(s)  
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 4 per processor
Number of threads 8 per processor
Name Intel Core i7 920
Code Name Bloomfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
Package Socket 1366 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.A.4
Extended Family/Model 6.1A
Core Stepping C0/C1
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 2775.6 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 21.0 x 132.9 MHz
Rated Bus speed 2392.8 MHz
Stock frequency 2666 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T
L1 Data cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache (per processor) 8 MBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory  
Northbridge Intel X58 rev. 12
Southbridge Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev. 00
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Memory Frequency 531.7 MHz (2:8)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 7.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 7 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 7 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 19 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
System  
System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
System Name Studio XPS 435MT
System S/N 5GW2ZH1
Mainboard Vendor Dell Inc.
Mainboard Model 0R849J
BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
BIOS Version 1.0.2
BIOS Date 11/14/2008
Memory SPD  
Module 1 DDR3, PC3-10700 (667 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Elpida
Module 2 DDR3, PC3-10700 (667 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Elpida
Module 3 DDR3, PC3-10700 (667 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Elpida
Module 4 DDR3, PC3-10700 (667 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Elpida
Software  
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.1) Ultimate Edition (Build 7000)
DirectX Version 10.0

 

 

Here is my Windows 7 Window Experience Rating

Component Details Subscore Base score
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 7.4
5.9
  Determined by lowest subscore
Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB 5.9
Graphics ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Prerelease - WDDM 1.1) 7.9
Gaming graphics 2299 MB Total available graphics memory 6.5
Primary hard disk 365GB Free (581GB Total) 5.9
Windows 7 Ultimate

System  
  Manufacturer Dell Inc.
  Model Studio XPS 435MT
  Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM
  System type 64-bit operating system
  Number of processor cores 4
Storage  
  Total size of hard disk(s) 879 GB
  Disk partition (CSmiley Happy 365 GB Free (581 GB Total)
  Media drive (DSmiley Happy CD/DVD
  Disk partition (ESmiley Happy 172 GB Free (298 GB Total)
Graphics  
  Display adapter type ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Prerelease - WDDM 1.1)
  Total available graphics memory 2299 MB
        Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB
        Dedicated system memory 0 MB
        Shared system memory 1787 MB
  Display adapter driver version 8.56.1.4
  Primary monitor resolution 1200x1920
  Secondary monitor resolution 1920x1200
  DirectX version DirectX 10
Network  
  Network Adapter Intel(R) 82567LF-2 Gigabit Network Connection

Dmarco
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

Recently dell have updated the bios but none of the previous instace forn now is present!!!

I hope that Dell want decide to offer more options (for memory &  processor control) quickly!!!!!

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pynnonen
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

I have loaded the new BIOS 1.08 (from 1.02) - nicer splash screen, but nothing of interest. I agree with you there should be more user options for processor and memory. I ordered a 6GB (3 x 2GB) triple channel memory kit DDR3 1333 (PC3 - 10666) to replace the current memory.

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Davet50
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

I have to state that the possibility of Dell providing a overclocking bios is slim to none. The amount of resourses that they would need to expend would not justifiy the results.

Believe me, I and many other have been down this road before when the XPS 700/710/720 systems were released. The answere we always got was pretty much what I stated above. If Dell did not release the system with overclocking in the bios like the XPS630 and 730 systems then it is not going to happen.

It is indeed a shame they will not allow this on systems like you and I have which in effect cripples the real pontential of the computers.

 Home Built Sandy Bridge P8P67 i7 2600k @ 4.5 GHz 8gigs GSkill Ripjaws. Corsair 800D Case and AX1200 Ps X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty pro PCIe Sound Card
Dell Studio XPS 1645  Window 10 Pro

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Dmarco
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

I think in this case that Dell have the possibility to do what i have previously requested without spent a lot of resource.

If you look the xps435T specification (i write from italy and for now this system is not available for me ) the system are pretty similar, only one powerful power and little more things, the board share the same chipset!

Is only a matter of will from Dell ( or commercial strategy of course).

I all.

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Davet50
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

the expenditure of resources is still significant especially from a business standpoint. The bios would have to be completely rewritten and then go through extensive testing and evaluation. this is where the majority of the resources would be tied up.

 Home Built Sandy Bridge P8P67 i7 2600k @ 4.5 GHz 8gigs GSkill Ripjaws. Corsair 800D Case and AX1200 Ps X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty pro PCIe Sound Card
Dell Studio XPS 1645  Window 10 Pro

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mentor00
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Re: Studio XPS Overclocking potential - BIOS upgrade?

pynnonen, I'm not familiar with the cpu-z although I've heard it mentioned.  My question is why does it show your memory at 667mhz?  I thought the machine came with 1066mhz memory upgradeable to 1333mhz.. 

It worked fine before I fixed it![:$]

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