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October 26th, 2011 09:00

Upgrade for Radeon HD4850?

I have a Studio XPS Desktop 435MT with the Radeon HD 4850 video card (512mb).  I am considering upgrading the video card to get HDMI output.  any recommendations for this?  I know there could be issues with the stock power supply.

 

Any recommendations are appreciated.

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October 26th, 2011 11:00

Might be able to shoehorn a 6850 in there.  750W or better power supply would be recommended.

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100315L Radeon HD 6850 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

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October 31st, 2011 17:00

Not sure that card will fit.  There are a couple of wires going to the Motherboard below the slot for the video card.  This card will most likely hit them and not fit

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October 31st, 2011 21:00

The card will fit.  Others have used the HD 6850 in the same system.  They also never changed the stock power supply and it seems to work.  

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November 1st, 2011 06:00

I have an XFX HD4850 and it has an HDMI output.  A different brand would give you what you want and may not require a power supply upgrade.  

My HD4850 also has built in audio for HDMI.  Some video cards require an S/PDIF connection to the motherboard for HDMI audio and most Dell's do not have the separate motherboard connection.

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November 11th, 2011 15:00

I am also interested in upgrading the video card in my studio xps.  The HD6850 looks like a useful upgrade for a low cost.  It also has the advantage of a relatively low power requirement and can probably work without changing the power supply.  (If anyone can confirm this I would be grateful.)  However the problem I see is that the PCI-e slot is second from bottom of the case.  The double slot card designs like the one pictured above will have their fans hard up against the bottom of the case (assuming you can get around the cable on the mother board) and the air will have no where to go.

A search seems to indicate that there are single slot HD6850 cards available from PowerColor and Afox.  Afox also seems to have a version with the fan on top of the card.  Does anyone have any knowledge of these cards  Has anyone actually installed a DH6850 – what brand and how did they get around the lack of space below the card.

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November 11th, 2011 15:00

I ended up going with an EVGA GeForce GTS 450 to avoid all the driver issues I have seen with the AMD/ATI cards.  It fits fine at the bottom of the case and their is enough room to allow for air circulation.

It runs much cooler than the old HD4850.  Here is a link to the card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130572&cm_re=gts_450-_-14-130-572-_-Product

 

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November 11th, 2011 15:00

I am also interested in upgrading the video card in my studio xps.  The HD6850 looks like a useful upgrade for a low cost.  It also has the advantage of a relatively low power requirement and can probably work without changing the power supply.  (If anyone can confirm this I would be grateful.)  However the problem I see is that the PCI-e slot is second from bottom of the case.  The double slot card designs like the one pictured above will have their fans hard up against the bottom of the case (assuming you can get around the cable on the mother board) and the air will have no where to go.  It seems thatb this will a) overload the fan, and b) just blow the hot air back onto the card.

A search seems to indicate that there are single slot HD6850 cards available from PowerColor and Afox.  Afox also seems to have a version with the fan on top of the card.  Does anyone have any knowledge of these cards  Has anyone actually installed a DH6850 – what brand and how did they get around the lack of space below the card.

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November 12th, 2011 09:00

Below is what someone wrote about the HD 6850 and the 435MT system:

I just wanted to update this old thread.  In the end I didn't get the 5770 but I have just recently purchased the Sapphire Radeon 6850 and it's working great in this machine.

This particular 6850 requires two power connectors so I had to get a sata to molex adapter so I could use the molex to 6 pin that came with the card.  This is a new change to this card and I wasn't expecting it, so if you're getting a 6850 for this machine make sure you buy a brand that is only using one power connector on the card.

The card runs easily in this machine on the stock power supply.  Using a watt meter playing a game with the card close to full load the system never draws more than ~285W and it's very rare it draws even that, general gameplay has the system draw in the mid 200's.  Idle is around 140W (143W as I type this).

The temps on the card are great, I've been running a monitor and the peak temp it's recorded on the 6850 is 73C and I've never really see the fan spin up over 50 or 60% on the card.

IMO the 6850 is a great upgrade path for the Dell 435MT's.

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November 12th, 2011 10:00

I have a Galaxy GTS450 that I bought to replace my ATI Radeon HD4850 as I was having a problem running a game and NVIDA was not supposed to have the problem.  In addition the GTS450 has 1 GB of DDR3 memory, compared to 500KB of DDR2 memory on the HD4850.  Surprise, my Windows Experience score was lower with the GTS450 and shortly after I installed the GTS450 there was a fix for the gaming problem with ATI Radeon cards.  I reinstalled the HD4850 and have kept the GTS450 in case the HD4850 ever fails.

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November 16th, 2011 02:00

I decided to get a HD6850 and purchased the Gigabyte GV-R685OC-1GD.  I am guessing any HD6850 will work.  But this model has the advantage of needing one power connector only.  It also exhausts the cooling air out the back (through a grill in the second slot) which is a major plus in this small case.  It come mildly over clocked from the factory compared to the AMD reference design.  It also has an enhanced cooling set up.  There are two fans on the bottom of the card and these are close to the bottom of the case and to the cables coming off the motherboard there.  You need to check that the cables do not fowl the fans.

The HD6850 draws less power than other competing chip sets such as the GTX460 (and seems to sell for less).  Gigabyte say you should use a 500W power supply but my research into tests for this card suggest that the Dell power supply will be fine.  So far there are no problems.  There is a big lift in performance.  I am playing Battlefield 3 on high.

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November 16th, 2011 05:00

Nice card.  I like it!

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