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November 28th, 2017 13:00

will the Dell Precision 690 work with the GTX970

Hi guys!

I have the Precision 690 and I want to upgrade the GPU   

Current Build:

2x Quad core Xeon 2.33 ghz

32gb Ram

512ssd 

1000w PSU

GTX 8800

I want a boost in cuda cores etc. and I think the system can update to the evga gtx 970:

https://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=8296b494-5d1d-400d-b2e8-d00ccd71e088 

Do you think it will work? It has a 2x6 pin power input the same as my current 8800. Runs on Bios and is PCI E backwards from what I understand.

Also, what do you think about this vs. 780?

If you think both options are bad, what would you recommend this current day with a max budget of €400. Without changing motherboards etc.

Cheers!

8 Wizard

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November 30th, 2017 05:00

I was referring to my specific 690 which I no longer have. The specific card was EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB GAMING ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling Graphics Card 02G-P4-2963-KR  YMMV

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Whisper-Graphics-02G-P4-2963-KR/dp/B00SOFMQNW

 

No idea about other cards.   I also know that R Series from sapphire DO NOT POST or work at all.

This user upgraded to Quadro FX4800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx41F1KOrXw

http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/precision-690/pd

The other thing is that Dell Talks about A high-end NVIDIA® SLI™ ready configuration is available with the 690 but DOES NOT MENTION CROSSFIRE and I think this is another bone of contention with Radeon Cards.

Aka 2 PCI-e x16 slots with optional graphics card riser on 690 1KW chassis. Intel 5000x chipset

DOS VESA VIDEO Mode 103 is not optional.  If your card doesnt support this it will NEVER get into F2 cmos/bios setup nor will it post.

 

 

 

November 29th, 2017 11:00

understood.

However, looking again, I think the quadro k4000 would be the way to go.

What are your thoughts on this?

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November 29th, 2017 11:00

That is unknown by Dell. The Precision 690 was never tested by Dell with GeForce video card and drivers. We only tested the workstation Nvidia Quadro and AMD FireGL video cards and drivers. It sounds like the GeForce GTX 8800 drivers installed on your system, so maybe the GeForce GTX 970 could work. You are just going to have to try it out. Check the sellers return policy in case it does not work.

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November 29th, 2017 18:00

Why the GeForce 970? That's a Maxwell power hungry old card. A modern pascal based Nvidia GeForce 1050 ti has the same performance for about €101.12 less. No need for external power supply connectors. There's 99%  chance it works with the precision 690.

GeForce 970:

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4

GeForce GTX 1050 ti

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-128-bit-ZT-P10510A-10L/dp/B01MCU1ERO/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512009674&sr=1-4&keywords=gtx+1050+ti

If you had a little more than €400 (€470) you could eve get a GeForce 1070 which is much more powerful than even the 1050 ti. But you'd need a modern power supply like a evga supernova 750.

GeForce 1070:

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Compact-Graphics-ZT-P10700G-10M/dp/B01LLAJ8PU/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512010217&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+1070

EVGA Supernova 750:

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G2-0750-XR/dp/B00IKDETOW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1512010125&sr=1-1&keywords=evga+supernova+750

8 Wizard

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November 30th, 2017 04:00

The 690 DOES NOT SEEM TO WORK with ANY of the newer UEFI PCI-E 3.0 cards.
It has PCI-E 1.0 Bus.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19508284



EVGA GTX 950 and 960 seem to work.

One issue is that UEFI cards DO NOT SUPPORT DOS VESA VIDEO MODE 103 which means you cant get into BIOS / CMOS with a UEFI card.   This is why Radeon R series doesn't work.  Apparently the EVGA cards have Dual Bios so they allow for Older non UEFI bios cards.


November 30th, 2017 05:00

Thanks for the reply Speed step, in the other thread you seems to say that "EVGA 960 works fine"

Is this from a technical sheet point of view or experience?

Chrisi's msg was very usefull. It's good to know that the 950 works.

I debating between the k4000 and these two cards. What are your opinions on this?

November 30th, 2017 06:00

Amazing info! I'm going to look and see if I can find one of these cards.

In theory the 4gb evga model of the 960 should work as well right?

www.ebay.es/.../253277690518

8 Wizard

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November 30th, 2017 09:00

Im saying 4 gig cards may not work at all and likely never will due to memory map constraints and bios and and and.

I also don't know if theres a difference with the Video RISER and 1000W power supply vs the run of the mill 690 AND I don't know what bios version I had. 

November 30th, 2017 12:00

Ok. I suppose the last question I have on this topic is how did the card preform for you at the time if you remember. where you happy with the performance etc.

8 Wizard

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December 1st, 2017 06:00

Performance was Ok but even the fastest Video card is very slow in such an old and slow bus.

Speed is improved 800 percent by moving to a newer 24 GIG Tri channel Ram  DDR3 system aka Precision T3500.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Barebones-Dell-Precision-T3500-Workstation-Desktop-XEON-W3503-2-4GHz-DVD-RW-CC/372133707807

 

Note the results with a $700 GTX 1080TI in a DDR2  8 Gig  Dell XPS 400.  Also Don't be fooled by the Mhz myth this 2.4Ghz system is SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER THAN a 3.6 Gigahertz  Pentium D 960 XPS 400/Optiplex GX620.

 

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