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Dell Dimension 8200 video card upgrade - need your input
Ordered this new from Dell back in 02.
Upgraded the cpu to a 3.06 GHZ and A09 Hyperthreading Bios.
Two gigs of PC800-40 RAM. 533 mhz FSB. XP
Came with a 128mb video card. Would like to upgrade video.
REMEMBER THIS an AGP machine.
Considering this :
HIS H465F1GHA Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready Video Card
However it would require a PSU upgrade, only $ 31.00 bucks though.
Plus the card is $ 79.99 after rebate. All in all not that bad a deal and am seriously considering
this as it would be the best available SINGLE BAY AGP video card out there.
Kinda worried even though this would be a nice setup it would be complete
overkill for my old P4 system ? Need your input ?????
Would consider a used card from Ebay if I didn't have to upgrade PSU also ?
What would be the most powerful VIDEO CARD WITHOUT upgrading the PSU ?
Would really like an HDMI port on the card also.
Would like to hear from those who have upgraded video card in this machine
without a PSU UPGRADE ? Yeah I know she is old but plenty good for kid.
Thanks for all your input......
Bill/ 5 up uu
RobinBredin
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January 27th, 2012 07:00
That is a good deal for $79.99, and the graphics card is a good card. I would not say it is a overkill, if it's cheaper to upgrade, then do it. It will save you money in the long term, cheaper than buying a new system.
I would buy nothing off Ebay, you buy what you see, and you don't know if the card works, or whither or not, you will get your money back should something happen to the card.
Mary G
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January 27th, 2012 09:00
Spending anything on a 10 year old obsolete computer is not cost effective. If the current video card works, use the computer until it dies and then buy a new one.
Jetmeck
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January 27th, 2012 11:00
Come on now just cause its old. Its good enough for the kids.
Keep the replies coming.
Who has upgraded there 8200 ?
rdunnill
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January 27th, 2012 13:00
The 4650 is good choice for a final upgrade. And I'm not sure you need a power supply upgrade -- the 4650 is not that demanding a GPU.
I upgraded a 2350 to Windows 7, and its Windows Experience index is higher than a neighbor's reasonably new mini-ITX.
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January 27th, 2012 14:00
I'm going to have to agree with Mary--and with rdunnill ;-)
If you really think you're going to do something with this box for a while, an HD 4650 is a good choice--as long as you can get one for under USD40. Otherwise, I'd also say to save your pennies for a newer box; USD80+ for a card plus USD30+ for a new PS is getting close to a third of the cost of a brand-new i570 that will totally spank the 8200.
rdunnill
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January 27th, 2012 15:00
Video card manufacturers are famous for grossly overstating the power supply requirements.
I used a 4650 AGP with a 275-watt micro-ATX power supply and it worked OK.
Jetmeck
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January 27th, 2012 15:00
Well the 4650 is calling for a 400 watt supply and the Dell is 250 watt. Read where Dell underates their PSU and card manufacturers inflate their requirements to be safe. So what you think ?
rdunnill
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January 27th, 2012 15:00
Jetmeck:
Jetmeck
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January 27th, 2012 17:00
Well if it won't start up with the new card I would know I needed the upgraded power supply ???
Jetmeck
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January 27th, 2012 17:00
Also the Dell computer I would order for me as of today is $1700.oo plus tax and shipping ..................Just checked .
rdunnill
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January 27th, 2012 18:00
I forgot to plug the four-pin power connector into my 4650 AGP and it still worked.
I don't think you'll have a problem with it.
Jetmeck
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January 27th, 2012 23:00
Appreciate your responses and patience greatly. You know how the internet is.
I read somewhere that a low wattage power supply could run the
vid card BARELY as in not at peak performance and have also read the puter will
not even start up if the PSU isn't powerful enough to run the card.
???????????????????? Thanks.................
rdunnill
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January 28th, 2012 09:00
I think the requirements are 18 amps on the 12-volt rail.
If the machine doesn't start, that's a signal to get a new power supply. But I haven't come across that problem. My 2350 has a stock power supply and runs an 8400GS (which requires 18 amps on the 12-volt rail) without problems, and it's older than what you have.
Jetmeck
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February 4th, 2012 00:00
Ended up with the 4670 card which has the same PSU requirements as the 4650 but is overclocked with much better cooling. It requires two bays to exhaust directly out of the case which is a wise plan on our mid case Dells with bare essentials as far as fans go....... so I will be removing my modem (no longer needed anyway) in the PCI slot next to the AGP slot. I will have to move my ETHERNET card over one slot. I have searched and have the factory Dell cds.
What would be the procedure for removing the drivers for the modem and removing the drivers for the ethernet card and swapping PCI slots. Will I have to find a Dell driver or will the Windows driver be sufficient for the ethernet card ? Thanks for all the comments and help. Again I did search multiple times for this info.
Thanks..............
rdunnill
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February 4th, 2012 11:00
I've never bothered removing drivers when I move cards around. At worst, you'll have to reinstall the drivers; at best, Windows will reuse them.