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Dell Dimension 8300 AGP or PCI video card ?

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Hello I'm hoping for some advice on what to do with my Dell Dimension 8300 from 2003. The machine has been through 2 or 3 video cards in its life and the latest was a nvidia  Ge Force FX5500 AGP 8X. I have recently installed a new copy of Windows 7 on this machine and although it seems to work fine the Graphics card doesn't go beyond 1280 x 1024. Also the windows experience index is only reading 1.0 due to the graphics card, I think. I'm also having some problems when playing DVD's in VLC which won't let me pause movies without crashing but will play them if I don't pause them. Would another card be beneficial for my Dell? I was thinking of this one..

The EVGA  GF 6200 512MB 64 bit GDDR2 AGP 8X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-130-452&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&Pur...

Are there any other areas I should be looking at to improve things?

 

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rdunnill
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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP video card

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I suggest a modern PCI video card, like the Zotac GT610. This GPU has support for modern video codecs like h.264 and VC-1, which the prehistoric 6200 lacks.

There are no modern GPUs available in AGP.

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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP video card

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Rdunnill thanks for the reply. I thought that these older machines were limited to using AGP cards. So I can use a PCI card in this Dell?

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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP video card

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Yes, you can use a PCI card (with a modern GPU) in an 8300. Note that the NVidia cards are the best option for video playback on AGP machines, because the ATI/AMD PCI driver disables DXVA acceleration.

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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP or PCI video card ?

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Would I need a 512mb or a 256mb card. My 8300 has 4GB of RAM but only 3GB are recognised by the O/S. What about this nVidia card with 512mb

http://tinyurl.com/m9fctw

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rdunnill
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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP or PCI video card ?

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512mb is better if you update to a high-resolution monitor.

The card you linked to has an ancient GPU.

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Thanks for the advice, I've ordered a Zotac GeForce 610 512MB for my Dell Dimension 8300 and once it arrives and fitted I'll get back to the thread and let you know the result. I am actually using a late model Dell ST2420L monitor at the moment so I'm hoping resolution will improve and allow me to watch DVD's again as well.

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rdunnill
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RE: Dell Dimension 8300 AGP or PCI video card ?

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Good to hear, and I think the Zotac has an onboard HDMI audio device in case your monitor has built-in speakers.

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OK so I fitted the Zotac PCI card and I haven't had much luck so far. I installed the card and started the computer and the graphics was very poor and the display was at approx 800 x 400 resolution (looked like a safe mode screen). I then loaded the card driver and there was no difference as the card wasn't recognised. The device manager was saying the computer didn't have enough resources to run the card. I think it said code 12.

I tried using the HDMI cable and also the dvi cable again no change. I think it said the monitor is not connected to an nvidia card? I also tried moving the card to another free PCI slot and again no change.

After a bit further messing I fitted an EVGA nvidia GeForce 6200 AGP card which loaded up and seems to be running a little better than the prviously fitted nvidia GeForce FX5500. The Windows Experience Index number is now 3.0 and not 1.0 it was reading with the FX5500 card. However although I can play dvd's if I try to pause them the program will lock up.

Any ideas on what I can do now to try and fix this issue.

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Further to my last post I've now had to remove the EVGA 6200AGP card and am now back using my original FX5500. The computer failed to boot up on the EVGA 6200 512mb AGP card and I was getting an Alert! message stating that boot up had stopped at checkpoint [cMPt] and later after further attempts it stopped at checkpoint [PnP1] and I needed to contact Dell technical. This was all very worrying!


After more attempts to get the computer to load Windows I replaced the 11 year old cmos battery, re-seated all the cards and uninstalled the nvidia graphics drivers and am now reusing the standard VGA graphics adapter from Windows. So I'm now back where I started. But at least the machine is working. I ran the WEI and the score is back down to 1.0

I did notice that the power supply in the machine is 250W. Could this be the reason for the problems I'm having?

edit...My Bios version is A01

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