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December 1st, 2008 09:00

Dimension 4600 - SATA Primary Drive 0 Not Found

Hey - I have a Dell Dimension 4600 system and it has this message when I boot it up:

SATA Primary Drive 0 not found
SATA secondary drive 0 not found
Strike the F1 key to continue
F2 to run the setup utility

The system has been like this since someone set it up for me. There is nothing wrong with the hard drive - I just think it's set up wrong. So when I hit F1 it boots up just fine. I'd like to fix this problem, why am I getting this error and what do I need to do to fix it? - Thanks, Jim

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December 1st, 2008 10:00

And if that doesn't do it, replace the battery on the motherboard.

 

Ron

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December 1st, 2008 10:00

Hello JKO55, It appears that the drives are not set up correctly in the BIOS.

When the system boots, at the Dell Logo screen, press F2 to enter the BIOS and in the Drives section on the left of the screen, make sure the SATA port0 and port1 and enabled. Also make sure that any ports that do not have any devices connected to them are disabled.

Then go to the Boot sequence section and check that the first boot device is Onboard CD\DVD is the first boot device and the second boot device is the hard drive that the OS is installed on.

Save your settings and reboot the system.

If everything else is as it should be, the system should boot normally.

Hope this helps.

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December 5th, 2008 09:00

Hello, thanks for the help. I tried to do as you suggested but in the setup utility under "drive configuration", it shows SATA priimary drive - Unknown Device. Same thing for the secondary drive. It also says "model unknown". What should I be doing? How do I enable the ports? It's not clear. Thanks again for your help - Jim

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December 5th, 2008 11:00

In BIOS setup, make sure SATA PRIMARY DRIVE is set to Auto. If it isn't, change it to Auto, save the change and exit setup.

 

If that doesn't help, power off and unplug PC from the wall.  Press/hold power button on the case for ~15 sec. Open the case and remove the battery from the motherboard. Press/hold the power button again for ~30 sec. Reinstall the battery, right-side up! See if it'll boot now. And if that battery is more than 2-3 yrs old, install a fresh one.

 

Ron

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June 22nd, 2009 13:00

I have exactly this problem.  I installed an additional 80Gb SATA hard disk on my 5 or 6 year old Dimension 4600 - same as the original drive.  It was seen in Windows from the original drive, no errors reported in Device Manager and I was able to store a file on it, so assumed it was OK.  I took out the old drive so that I cld load Windows XP and other programs on to the new one - planning to copy over data files and then dispense with the original drive, which has been giving blue screens from time to time.  However, after loading the XP installation files, at the point where I have to run Setup, I get the message "SATA drive not found".

What's worse, when I took out the new drive and went back to the old one again, I got the same message!  So I now have two inaccessible drives.  In BIOS both are reported as "Unknown device" even though the first one is the original drive.  The new one is a Seagate Barracuda but according to the Dell website not one of those that apparently do give rise to problems like this.  In the Boot Sequence the hard disk is reported as "Not installed".

Searching the internet has turned up a lot of instances of this problem where people have installed new SATA drives.  I would like to try one suggested solution, which is to load the required driver from a floppy disk at the point in loading XP where you are asked if you want to do so, by pressing F6.  However, I can't work out which driver it is.  I have a Dell resource CD with drivers on it.

Another solution for which many users seem to giving heartfelt thanks is to change SATA to ATA in the BIOS, which apparently allows XP to load correctly - but I think that must only apply to newer computers.  I can't find the option to do that in my BIOS.

If anybody can give me the solution to this I'd be most grateful.  If anyone can tell me which file(s) to load at F6 and where to find them if not on the Dell Resource CD, that would also be very helpful.

Thanks.

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August 16th, 2009 15:00

ok i tried everything with the sata primary drive 0 found and so on i replaced the batterie the hard drive was good when i got it it was running and working it had windows 98 on it and i went to put windows xp on it and it came up an error it said it couldnt be completly installed would a recovery disk fix this or am i screwed?

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August 16th, 2009 19:00

Hang on a nano-sec...

Did you reformat the drive and attempt a clean install of XP? Or are you trying to do an upgrade of Win98 to XP??

Read this from Microsoft for instructions for either a clean install or upgrade of 98 to XP.

Can you put this hard drive into another PC as a secondary drive to see if it's still readable (keep in mind that it won't boot another PC without proper drivers) ? That way you'll get an idea if this is a hard drive issue or a mobo issue.

Not sure what you mean by a "recovery disk". Dell only provides an XP Reinstallation CD which installs XP, and nothing else, meaning you have to install all the drivers and software after installing XP.  You may also have to install the SATA drivers from a floppy onto the hard drive before you an install XP, but BIOS has to see the drive first.

Ron

 

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August 17th, 2009 12:00

Dale, to follow up my post above about all the nonsense I had trying to install XP on a new, working SATA drive:  I got to the point you describe using a Dell recovery disk of XP Home with SP1.  This disk had been supplied with my Dell Dimension 4600 when I got it.  Eventually I got  the primary drive appearing in the BIOS as "Unknown device" and "HD". During installation the files were read off the Dell XP recovery disk but then the process came to a halt with a similar error message to yours.

To cut a long story short, after much wasted time I got a Windows XP Professional disk from an old laptop belonging to my brother.  Using that CD, glory hallelujah, the SATA drive was detected and XP Professional installed no bother, immediately. I also followed the instructions on installing XP given in the Dell 4600 manual.  I mention this because it includes useful tips such as "When the message `Press any key' appears, DO NOT press a key".........Hmmm.  No comment.

As far as I could make out the files missing from my Dell XP recovery disk are two drivers called 1.  Windows\System 32\drivers\disk.sys and 2. Windows\System 32\drivers\PartMgr.sys.  It might be worth checking the Drivers folder of the XP installation disk you're using to find out if it includes those two files.

So going by my experience I'd say

(1) You seem already to have XP.  Try installing that again but be sure to follow the directions in the Dell 4600 manual, because of the quirky instructions such as the one mentioned above.  And check it includes those driver files just mentioned.

(2) Try a recovery disk if you have one (It could be more up to date than mine). Same advice about checking the driver files.

(3) But if you get any of the rubbish about drive not found, files not installing etc. don't waste any more time on it.  Get a copy of XP Professional and your troubles may well be over.  Feel no compunction about using it.  This problem has been around for years as you have no doubt found out, as I did, when looking for solutions.  The big companies concerned have largely ignored it.  You have XP on disk yourself, which you presumably came by legitimately, and are entitled to get it to work one way or another.

You may even find, as I did, that when XP Professional installs, your XP Home files also install.  Something like this happened on my computer.  On start up I got the choice of running either XP or XP Professional. Where the XP Home files had been meantime I have no idea.  Unfortunately I can't absolutely confirm that that's what happened because I decided to use the Professional version and just deleted the XP files without actually trying to run the application.

Hope some of this turns out to be useful - I'm no expert.  Good luck.

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November 20th, 2009 20:00

Did you ever get the Primary Drive recognized.  I am having the same problem and know my HD is good from testing on another Dell.

 

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November 21st, 2009 09:00

Chriska

Yes and no!

To get the HD recognised at all, I had to use an XP Pro installation disk as described in my earlier post.  But I'm still having problems. 

My machine now operates fine so long as I don't turn it off or restart it.    As soon as I have to do either of these things, e.g. after a security update, I am back to "Primary drive not found" etc.  Recently I've had the equally unhelpful "Error loading OS".

A solution which I have found to work, though I have no idea why,  is to turn off the machine, and disconnect everything (keyboard, monitor, mouse etc) from the back.  Open up the sliding cover and just give a little press to all the connections.  Wait for a minute or two.  Then reinstate at least the monitor, mouse, keyboard and power and turn on.  You may find, as I have, that this is enough to get you past the "HD not found" and into Windows.  You are then OK till you have to restart the machine again.

I shld maybe add that at one point I get an onscreen message "Press F1 to continue".  I've had this ever since I replaced the fan about a year ago, so it may not appear for you.  When I've followed the procedure just described above (disconnecting, removing all connections, etc) pressing F1 at this point gets me into Windows.  At other times, it results in the "drive not found" messages, or "problem loading OS" message.

The other irksome thing is that this HD I'm talking about was meant to be a second HD, not the only one.  I'd planned to have both the original and the new one.  There are good instructions in the Dell handbook for adding a second HD.  However, I've never been able to get the old one to work again, either with the new one or on its own.  I suspect that part of the problem may be different versions of Windows or different Service Packs.  I found on the net that every time you load one of these things a new version of the Boot file BOOT.INI is created, but the old ones don't go away.  I suspect that my poor baffled machine is hunting around among half a dozen of these things to find which one it ought to be using.  There's a Windows utility to identify if you've got a "dual boot", according to which my BOOT.INI is fine, but I remain sceptical.

Please bear in mind that I am not in any way well-versed in computers, as is no doubt obvious to anyone who is.  I've got to this point purely by experiment and logic.

Good luck.  If you have any breakthroughs I'd be interested to hear what you did.  Or if anyone else has any comments...

 

 

 

December 3rd, 2009 03:00

I had a similar problem with a Dell Precision 690 - except it would not boot up. When trying to re-install XP pro it also said that there was no hard drive connected.

I updated the bios with the driver from the Dell website, then updated the SATA driver - but it initially did not work - I think it was because I selected the wrong driver,

but I received an error with each one I selected.

Loading Windows 7 proved that the drive worked fine - so I tried once again loading XP pro and reloaded (PF6 on the initial XP loading screen) what I thought was the correct SATA driver (Server/workstation) the first time and it worked. 

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December 3rd, 2009 19:00

Thanks for the response.  HOW did you update the BIOS driver if you could not get it to boot up?  Then HOW did you update the SATA driver?

Please let me know.

December 4th, 2009 04:00

Well I was fortunate that someone else had a bootable floppy disk - so I copied the bios update to that from the Dell website and ran it from the A: prompt.

Then I used the CD to load up XP and pushed PF6 to load the SATA driver, then XP loaded as per normal.

February 9th, 2010 20:00

I too am having the same problems with the CD/DVD drive and my Writable DVD+/- not being reconginized.   I really feal it was an XP Update that zapped it and I have seen other cases that occured about the same time that my went out.  I was going to rebuild my computer but with out the CD/DVD.... can't get there.  Has anyone really found the solution to this problem????

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February 9th, 2010 21:00

Hi JK.

Dont waste time. Just go ahead and replace the hard drive and reinstall OS.

Regards

Knight

 

 

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