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MathieuJSM
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Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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I am looking into upgrading a few things on my Studio XPS 435t / 9000.  Exactly what processors are compatible with my motherboard?

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Re: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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Hi MathieuJSM,

We do not suggest upgrading the processor on the system, however I have mentioned the processors compatible with Dell Studio XPS 435t / 9000:

Intel Core i7 920
Intel Core i7 940
Intel Core i7 965

Also, ensure that you update the BIOS before upgrading the processor. Click the link mentioned below for the BIOS:

http://dell.to/12rslze

NOTE: Ensure that the system does not turn off during BIOS update.

For more upgrades, click the link mentioned below:

http://dell.to/12rsIK1

Thanks & Regards
Manshu S
#iworkfordell

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kuhnesito
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RE: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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Hi, I also own a XPS 435/9000 i bought back in 2010, it came with a i7 920 And 12 gb ram

as of now I've replaced the video card it came with with a GTX 770 and the 450 watt psu with a corsair 600 watt. 

I cant buy a new computer right now so I wanted to upgrade the CPU without having to change the mobo. 

While I know this machine is quite limited for upgrading, the CPU speed is holding me back a bit, the gtx 770 is one of the fastest videocards around and while the CPU is still great, I really want to be over 3.0 ghz and overclocking with dell is not an option. 

instead of creating a new thread I searched and found this one which is similar to my issue so I will just ask my two questions here.

my first question is, why does dell recomend not to upgrade the CPU on the machine? What's the problem?

and second, is the list provided in the post above still the same today? That post was on April 2013 and while the bios is still the same version as it was then, I don't know if maybe someone figured out to upgrade to a higher i7 class.

i hope someone can help me with this.

full specs of my machine are.

xps 435/9000 

i7 920 2.6ghz

12gb of ram

originally radeon hd 5800 now upgraded to nvidia gtx 770

originally 450 watt psu now upgraded to a corsair 600 watt

1tb hd (2 500 drives)

windows 8.1

the only other hardware I've installed myself is a PCI wifi adapter.

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kuhnesito
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RE: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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bump ?   

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kuhnesito
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Bumpity bump?

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theflash1932
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RE: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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Is there a reason that you don't just use the 965?  It meets the specs you are looking for, and was listed by a Dell employee as being compatible (which probably is simply a list of processors with which the PC shipped from Dell as optional components).

In theory, any of the following "could" work (Compatible Products):
http://ark.intel.com/products/36785/Intel-X58-Express-IO-Hub

The list above hasn't changed since his post either, so nothing should have changed, but some of the above may be limited by power, cache, or speed limitations of the BIOS or system in general.  However, if the 965 works, the 975 should too, as it has the same power requirements and cache.  If the system will handle the 12MB cache of the Gulftown processors, then the 980X and 990X should also work.  Basically, if you want safe and "guaranteed" to work, then go with the 965, as recommended by the guy from Dell.  If you want a better processor, with a possibility that it won't work, then try the 9x0X.

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kuhnesito
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Thanks for the reply Smiley Happy

I've read other compatibility lists that show that some of the higher tier 9xx don't work. Probably a cache issue as you say. Yet other posts show that they all work. I was kind of waiting for a reconfirmation from a dell employee as to why some will work, some won't and especially why they recommend not changing the CPU at all. So then I feel a bit safer before buying.

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theflash1932
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"I was kind of waiting for a reconfirmation from a dell employee as to why some will work, some won't"

Well, you probably won't get it, and even if you do, it is very likely they will ONLY be able to tell you one thing:  which processors Dell validated for use in the 435, meaning only the processors Dell ever sold the 435 with as configurable options during purchase.  They most likely did not test or validate ANY other processor in the 435, since they never intended to use it.  Dell is not in the business of making white-box systems that are 100% upgradeable and customizable, so some parts are not upgrade-friendly, like control panels, chassis layout, and power supplies ... other upgrades are not "supported" simply because Dell never designed the system for that purpose.  They sell end-user solutions - computers configured to the end-users' needs.  True, their configuration options do not always meet every users' every demand, but pretty close.  That isn't to say that upgrading Dell computers "can't" be done - after all, they use standard computer parts found in other OEM systems and even sold individually at retail - Dell just can't say it is "supported" or "recommended", because they haven't tested/validated it.  It is like food that has allergy notices on it ... most foods are 99.999% likely NOT to contain those allergens, but because the company can't (or won't) guarantee that ALL allergens are absent, they put the warning on the label.  Anyone working for Dell, as a representative of Dell, can't "recommend" an unofficial solution or procedure - they CAN recommend a Dell-tested and validated solution/procedure.  He should/could, however, state that that is the reason why he must make that statement - "it may or may not work, but Dell hasn't validated any other processor" ... and language may be as much to blame there as anything.

Whatever you choose to try, post the results here, so others may benefit from the experience.  Like so many "unsupported" upgrades and scenarios, you never know until you try ... you have only educated guesses.

 

kuhnesito
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RE: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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unfortunately you are right, these machines are not great as far as upgrading.. such a big beautiful case but a locked mobo, we can't even overclock, oh well.

I am sure the cpus he lists as compatible are the cpus that originally came with the machine, what worries me is that even those he recommends not upgrading to, which confuses me. At the very least I would like to know the reason for that recommendation, I hope it simply isn't company policy to get users to decide and buy a new machine instead!

I found a pretty good deal for a uses i7 965, in great condition but all he sells me is the chip, no fans or heatsink etc. I wonder if I would have any problem using the fan that already came with my 920.

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edward4691
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RE: Studio XPS 435t / 9000 compatible processor list

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the 435t/9000, uses an X58 board/chipset, and you are talking about the Bloomfield processors, all have the same archetecture/lithography(ie 45nm,max tdp 130W ect.) from i7920 to i7975 extreme(the extreme has 6.4 GT/s QPI, but should still work) I7980 and above are 6 core processors(i believe) - I would not recommend with your locked bios....also the I7965/I975X  come with a bigger than stock fan than on the I7920, the stock fan in the 435t/9000 *** anyhow...you can get a I975 extreme fan ebay for 38.00(w/blue led) and bolt that to any of the bloomfield processors.As far as your confusion from Dell, its exactly what you think it is......they want you to buy a new computer, they also have not tested, etc. (by the way to change out processor fan requires pulling the board and pushing out the threaded fan mounts dell puts on there boards-they push out easy....have you downloaded realtemp to monitor heat on your I7920, i bet its runnin 60-70 celcius in that big red box............idle temps

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