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XPS 8930 - Video Card Help Needed
I found a great deal on the new XPS 8930 at my local Costco. It came with the new i7-8700 processor, 16gb RAM and an NVidia GTX 1050ti video card. I had a fairly new GTX 1070 video card that I thought would be a great upgrade for the new PC. However, after I installed it, the PC would not boot up with the 1070 - lights came on, the fans on the 1070 turned, but the keyboard lights wouldn't come on and the monitor stayed black. In trying to get it to work I tried the following:
- Put the 1050ti back in and it booted up immediately.
- Checked for and found a new Bios - 1.0.2 - I updated the Bios and tried again - the 1070 still didn't work
- Checked for and installed the latest NVidia drivers - installed the 1070 and it still didn't boot up
- Put the 1070 back into my XPS 8910 and it booted up just fine - the 1070 wasn't bad. Also checked for a bios update for the 1070 - did not find one
- Installed a fairly new Corsair RM650 power supply in the 8930 thinking that the 460 W OEM PS wasn't powerful enough to drive the 1070 - installed the 1070 and once again, it would not boot
- Ran MS Update and let it install updates to bring it up to the latest of everything - still wouldn't boot
- Called the Dell Warranty Support and after bouncing between 3 different techs, they got me to a great one who spent over an hour having me try some of the same things I had already tried, also clearing the CMOS, cleaning up drivers, it still didn't work. We both agreed that it appears that nothing is wrong with the computer, and replacing the system board, or any other hardware will most likely resolve this issue
What else should I try? I don't want to spend another $400 on another video card. I notice that the new 8930's ship with 1070's and 1080's, so I'm assuming that any 1070 should work.
My other question - is this a bios issue? I remember a couple of years back when with prior XPS desktops the GTX 970 and other cards wouldn't work until they came up with a bios update that fixed it. Could this be my problem?
speedstep
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November 15th, 2017 04:00
Non dell cards would require SECURE BOOT OFF, Legacy CSM ON, Legacy Option Roms ON.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3156/
Koeven
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November 15th, 2017 07:00
Thank you! I will try that tomorrow night when I get back home and report back. I would love it if it is that simple.
Koeven
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November 16th, 2017 18:00
I made the changes recommended above and they made it so that the PC would not boot at all. As I made each change in the Bios, a warning popped up that it may cause the PC to fail on boot. The error that I received was "Boot failure on device. Press any key to reboot the machine." I reset the Bios back to the original settings and it rebooted successfully immediately.
Does anyone from the Dell Moderators have a recommendation?
Koeven
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November 21st, 2017 08:00
We can close this. Dell Support tells me that they don't support installing any other video cards than the ones they sell. They said that if I want a GTX 1070 in my PC, I should return the one that I bought at Costco and buy one online with their 1070. That totally surprised me, as one of the reasons I've been buying XPS PC's (this is my 7th one) is their ease of upgrading. The other challenge is that they aren't even selling what they told me to buy online. The models with the black front panel are still all 8920's.
equalizer88
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December 2nd, 2017 12:00
Is the Costco model an 8930? If so, Dell website doesn't list it and who knows what they are selling. Just better off building own, at least you can pick a motherboard that has M.2 slots that will support top speed of 3000MB/sec.
Koeven
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December 2nd, 2017 19:00
Yes, it an XPS 8930. Fairly basic with an i7-8700 processor, 16gb RAM, 2gb HDD, and an NVidia GTX 1050ti video card. I had a Gigabyte GTX 1070 in my old 8910, but in trying to move it to the 8930 found the 8930 won't boot with that card. I finally bought an EVGA 1070ti online and it works fine. I'm just frustrated with Dell Support as they sell the XPS 8930 as a user upgradeable and customizable PC on their website, yet they don't support a Gigabyte 1070 video card.
From their sales site:
Designed to grow with you.
Easy to access & upgrade: A swing-out power supply unit gives you easy access to the chassis, so you can expand and upgrade things like graphics and memory to meet your specific needs.
Endlessly expandable: Your tower can support up to 225W full size graphics cards and up to four storage devices. Enjoy plenty of storage with capacity for three 3.5" HDD bays or 2.5" NB drives plus one internal optical drive. Four tool-less PCle slots let you add in sound cards, graphics cards and more.
equalizer88
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December 3rd, 2017 08:00
Good news on the 1070ti. Now question is speed of M.2 nvme. The Dell 5675 only supports x8 speed for nvme slot so Samsung 960 has read speed of only 1500MBps instead of 3000MBps on a good motherboard. Has anyone done a speed test of 960 or 960 pro on Dell 8930?
Koeven
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December 3rd, 2017 14:00
I have only done a speed test on a Samsung 960 EVO 1TB on my 8930 and it gets the full 3000 MB/s as long as you use the Samsung NVME driver. My latest test using CrystalDiskMark 5.2.1 had a read speed of 3272 MB/s and a write speed of 1905 MB/s. You have to switch from RAID to AHCI in the bios in order to use the Samsung NVME driver. I'm using version 2.3.
equalizer88
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December 3rd, 2017 20:00
Thanks for that speed test. Many Dells such as current 8675 sold at Costco only operate at half speed.
You changed power supply, installed a 1070ti. Any other changes such as uninstalling WiFi, etc?
Under gaming load, what are CPU and video card temps?
Koeven
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December 3rd, 2017 21:00
Changes so far:
Installed Samsung 960 EVO 1TB as boot drive (with Samsung NVME storage drivers) - took it out of my 8910
Upgraded video card to an EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 8GB GDDR5
Upgraded PS to Corsair RM650i with the blue individually sleeved modular cables (took it out of my 8910)
Swapped the BluRay drive from my 8910 with the standard DVD in the 8930 (had to swap the plastic face plate)
Increased memory from 16gb to 32gb with 2 additional Crucial 8gb sticks - they worked perfectly
Replaced the Killer wifi card with an Intel AC-8625
Last two things I want to change:
Swap out the upper case fan and the CPU cooler with the units that ship with the K processor - haven't found them yet.
I've been traveling a ton and haven't had time to test video card temps. I'm giving the 8910 with the Gigabyte1070 card in it to my daughter and her family for Christmas. I'm not a big gamer, I use it more for video conversions and video editing.