Iseree
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USB Bootable stick

What a wild goose-chase I have been on for the last three days.

Be cautious when using Kingston DataTraveler 100 G3 usb sticks to make a bootable drive to boot up your computer. SOME WILL NOT WORK! I have spent three days investigating why, after using 2 different Kingston USB drives, my two Dell Inspiron laptops would not see them as valid media and asked me to remove them. A CD or DVD would boot up fine but the Kingston USB stick would not.

I spent hours on line, thinking it was my BIOS settings that needed to be changed but everything I tried did not work.

I did suspect that the first Kingston usb drive was faulty so I tried another Kingston drive and that would not boot up either so this mistakenly made me convinced that it was my BIOS settings that were causing the trouble. 

I decided to try a different make of USB and lo and behold the Sandisk I used worked straight away.

 

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Saltgrass
4 Germanium

Re: USB Bootable stick

I have both Kingston Data Travelers 8 GB and higher capacities and they work fine... as do Sandisk drives...

Possible one specific model or size is giving you problems or something already on the drive is causing the problem.

Info on partitioning and drive size, along with how you created the drive might be useful for someone to notice a problem...

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Iseree
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Re: USB Bootable stick

The Kingston Data Traveler is the 16GB 100 Generation 3 that I got from Amazon this month. They were reduced from £18.29 to £4.97 each so perhaps someone knew something was wrong with them? In fact all the different capacities of this thumb drive are still reduced on Amazon UK. I left a review stating that they were no good to use as a bootable drive.

I forgot to mention that both the above mention sticks also did not work in my HP Elitebook 820 G2.

The Sandisk that does work in all three of my laptops and boots up is the very small Sandisk Ultra Fit 16GB USB3. It is tiny, only about ¾ inch.

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Saltgrass
4 Germanium

Re: USB Bootable stick

OK, I see the Black one on the US Amazon site.  I do not see a model number but it does say 100 G3.

I will order some to test but until I get them would you do me a favor?  I don't know how you made the drive but could you try cleaning the drive with Diskpart and then follow the procedure below to make it bootable.  Then just mount and copy over the Win 10 Install files.  Make very sure you are working on your USB drive.......!

DISKPART> lis dis

  Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
  --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
  Disk 0    Online          476 GB  1024 KB        *
  Disk 1    Online           28 GB  2048 KB

DISKPART> sel dis 1

Disk 1 is now the selected disk.

DISKPART> clean

DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk.

DISKPART> cre par pri

DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.

DISKPART> format quick fs=fat32

  100 percent completed

DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.

DISKPART> assign

DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point.

DISKPART> active

DiskPart marked the current partition as active.

 

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XPS 2720, Inspiron 17 7779, Inspiron 15 7567, XPS 13 9365, Inspiron 1545, TB16 Dock

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Iseree
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Re: USB Bootable stick

The link to the Kingston USB drives on Amazon UK is:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C5K8D5W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am not sure what you are asking me to do, or indeed, if I am capable of doing it. I don't know of Diskpart or what mount means other than it is used in Linux to mount a drive.

Are you a Linux user?

I found out that this USB drive did not work when I installed Macrium Reflect in order to take an image of the Windows 10 drive on my HP Elitebook for backup recovery purposes. I have used Macrium for many years on my Windows workstations and always find it reliable. At the end of the Macrium installation, it always suggests you make a bootable CD/DVD or USB drive and to check that the bootable drive actually works. This was when I discovered that it did not work. I had purchased two of these Kingston drives so I used Macrium to make another bootable USB using the second one. This did not work either.

The Sandisk Ultra fit USB was also made bootable in the same way using Macrium Reflect and it works on the three laptops I tested it on: Dell Inspiron 17r (N7010), Dell Inspiron 15r (N5010) and HP Elitebook 820 G2.

I specifically purchased the HP Elitebook (refurbished) because I had learned that they are compatible with Linux. I want to try Linux Mint because I heard that it is the easiest distro for beginners and I am definitely a newbie in the Linux department. I am a retired IT person so I am very conversant with Windows but sadly lacking in the Linux world.

 

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Saltgrass
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Re: USB Bootable stick

OK, I will check the drive when it comes in.

I do not use Macrium Reflect but of course, that was not part of your original post.

The drive is inexpensive so it is not very fast...

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XPS 2720, Inspiron 17 7779, Inspiron 15 7567, XPS 13 9365, Inspiron 1545, TB16 Dock

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Saltgrass
4 Germanium

Re: USB Bootable stick

I got the Kingston drive (Datatraveler 100 G3) today to check your claim.  It came formatted as FAT32 so I made that partition active and then mounted the Win 10 install media .iso and copied over the install files.  I booted my system using the Kingston drive and it booted fine.

Hopefully, you will revise your original claim and include a revision referencing the Macrium Reflect situation being the cause of the problem.

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XPS 2720, Inspiron 17 7779, Inspiron 15 7567, XPS 13 9365, Inspiron 1545, TB16 Dock

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Iseree
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Re: USB Bootable stick

I cannot put the blame on Macrium because I used the same procedure on my Sandisk Ultra Fit USB which was successful.

Macrium will make you a Windows PE bootable drive which can be used to boot up when you want to recover a Windows installation drive and restore it to a previous condition. It is also used for disk cloning. I believe Microsoft still uses it and offers it for download but I prefer the Macrium GUI DOS interface finding it easier.

I have modified my original post because I now think I may have got faulty Kingston drives. It beggars belief that I got two bad ones though. These two Kingston drives can be used for storing files in the usual way but cannot be made bootable. I have put them aside marked dubious and will not use them except in an emergency.

By the way, I have a Kingston DataTraveler Ultimate (all metal casing) and that is very good.

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BurnettDave
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Re: USB Bootable stick

I have a 100 G3 and I cannot get it to boot in either of my machines no matter what I do.

I have many other makes of stick that work fine.

There was also a "strange" amount of unallocated space at the start of the stick which Kingston said was not their doing and to repartition and reformat as either Fat32 or NTFS for use in most OS's.

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Clintlgm
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Re: USB Bootable stick

Yes since the beginning of USB Sandisk have just worked, especially since USB 3.0 and Beyond Sandisk have just kept on working.I have several USB Thumb Drive 32GB and Above from different manufacturers that work somewhat but as soon as you try to boot them or transfer large files they fail.

Personally, i use Macruium Reflect its an Imaging program that since I have switched, to back in 2012 has never once failed me.

 

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