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Ask The Expert – Isilon’s New Releases: IsilonSD Edge, OneFS.NEXT and CloudPools
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Ask the Expert conversation. EMC Isilon recently launched 3 different game-changing products which are IsilonSD Edge, OneFS.NEXT and CloudPools. During this discussion we will be covering any technical or feature related questions about these powerful products. Our seasoned experts have extensive experience with Isilon and are here to answer any and all your questions. If you missed the live announcement, view it here and ask your questions.
Watch this video to learn more about The Journey to CloudPools, IsilonSD Edge, and OneFS.NEXT
Meet Your Experts:
| Scott Owens Senior Marketing Manager Scott is responsible for technical marketing collateral associated with protocol auditing and performance. |
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| Anissa Mohler Senior Manager, Product Management Anissa spent 10 years in IT consulting and data centers - from banks to oil & gas service providers & everything in between before moving to the vendor side of the storage industry. In the last 18 years she's worked at the leading NAS storage vendors and focused on creating products that would delight her IT colleagues and friends. |
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| Lawrence Chiu Principal Product Manager - EMC Isilon Working in EMC Isilon, Lawrence is responsible for the virtual and other cloud integrated storage capabilities and roadmaps.With over 17 years of IT experience with focus in the server hardware ecosystem and cloud industries, Lawrence enjoys bringing to market bleeding edge technologies that continuously disrupt the status quo. |
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Senior Manager, Product Management - EMC Isilon Karthik has been working with Isilon for 3 years. He runs the product management for all things data services, protocols, , big data & Hadoop, cloud and SDS. Some of the technologies he's experieced with are: Cluster file systems, virtualization, product management, scale out NAS markets, competitive views, software defined storage. |
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Senior Technical Marketing Manager - EMC Isilon Kshitij is responsible for technical marketing collateral, product capabilities and roadmaps for cloud related products and cutting edge technologies that solve customer painpoints. |
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DaveHenry1
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November 11th, 2015 11:00
Will the "release rollbacks" (post-OneFS.NEXT) also be non-disruptive? Or will only upgrades be non-disruptive, but rollbacks (or downgrades) will disrupt?
carlilek
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November 11th, 2015 11:00
Does this mean that synciq is becoming bidirectional? This seems like a fairly limited use case product if it is not, since either the SD cluster or the regular cluster will necessarily be read-only for data that resides there.
DaveHenry1
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November 11th, 2015 11:00
Is the 36TB "manageable" by IsilonSD Edge usable space for the filesystem data? Or is it 36TB raw that will then have the Isilon data protection scheme applied against it?
Since the "up to 36TB" has been described as being made up of up to 12 VMDKs of up to 2TB each, I'm assuming it's 36TB of raw capacity available to the IsilonSD?
scott_owens
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November 11th, 2015 12:00
In the initial release we are staying cautious and we will require a simultaneous reboot to complete the rollback. The process is very similar to an upgrade with simultaneous reboot.
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This product is currently not generally available. The layout, design and features may be revised or removed prior to becoming generally available
Go.Y
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November 12th, 2015 00:00
As far as I understand, Isilon is based on FreeBSD. Often, when OneFS major version changes, many sysctl parameters have been changed.
When we rollback to previous version, does OneFS be aware of changes made to sysctls?
Peter_Sero
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November 12th, 2015 01:00
Thank you Anissa!
Unrelated question: Does the SD version smartfail drives that stall too often for too long time, as class OneFS does on Isilon nodes?
Also, does SD run the MediaScan job to check the disks?
Both procedures are an essential parts of the data protection strategy in OneFS, and at the same time they reflect how OneFS has full power over the underlying hardware. I wonder how this is transformed into a virtual environment -- where a OneFS "drive" often would be just one partition of a physical drive, with other partitions being used by different VMs/apps at the same time...
Curious
-- Peter
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November 12th, 2015 12:00
go.y
We will maintain all supported configuration settings in the upgrade and the rollback. That being said, we advise caution when modifying any sysctls. So to be on the safe side I would recommend noting any sysctl changes that you had before you start the upgrade and then if you have to rollback ensuring those sysctl changes are maintained.
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This product is currently not generally available. The layout, design and features may be revised or removed prior to becoming generally available
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November 12th, 2015 12:00
Hi Katie - Apologies for the delayed response.
We do not intend for the cluster to remain in an uncommitted state indefinitely so we will support being in an uncommitted state for up to 10 days. If you aren't committed after 10 days we will not force an upgrade commit but it is a very good idea to commit that upgrade. After 7 days we'll start sending nag messages to remind the administrator to finish the upgrade and we will continue to nag every 7 days until the upgrade is committed. You cannot start another upgrade until the previous upgrade is committed.
You can rollback anytime before the upgrade is committed. This can be after upgrading a single node or all nodes or anything in between. After the upgrade is committed there is no rollback.
DISCLAIMER:
This product is currently not generally available. The layout, design and features may be revised or removed prior to becoming generally available
RobertoAraujo1
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November 13th, 2015 08:00
Hi Folks, I wanted to share another video where Kshitij "KT" Tambe, Isilon Technical Marketing, provides a deep dive on frequently asked CloudPools technical questions.
AlvaroG
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November 14th, 2015 17:00
No point, no achivement yet... It seems the RAMP is not working any more.
mawatarai
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November 16th, 2015 03:00
Can you use IsilonSD Edge as one tier of Isilon SmartPool?
karthikrm1
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November 16th, 2015 09:00
No, SD Edge is a separate cluster on its own. It cannot be a Smartpools tier for an existing Isilon cluster.
karthikrm1
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November 16th, 2015 09:00
The answer to both us yes. We do mediascan and you can Smartfail a vmdk should you choose to do so. The vmdks presented to OneFS are a full physical disk.
DISCLAIMER:
This product is currently not generally available. The layout, design and features may be revised or removed prior to becoming generally available
carlilek
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November 16th, 2015 09:00
Honestly, I'm a bit more concerned about the radio silence from the experts in this thread.
carlilek
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November 16th, 2015 09:00
Can you speak more to the compression aspect of cloudpools? Where does the compression occur, and how much overhead is that?
Is that exclusive to cloudpools, or will it be an option for regular data as well?