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Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

Are windows-98 drivers available for all hardware devices on the 600m?  Chipset, audio, network, video, etc?

The Dell download options for this computer is somewhat limited when Win-98 is selected vs other OS's.

 

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

That was a good questiion...I, too, checked, and you are right.  The hardware is newer than the OS, and no support.

Hopefully, someone has an answer.  I was ready to to a dual-boot setup, since a few of my customers have 98, and my memory stinks when trying to walk them through something.  Guess I'll put that plan on hold...

Other than that, I hate 98.

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

I doubt that you will find drivers specifically set up for the 600m by Dell since Windows XP is the only OS offered.  Not Win98.  Dell is not obligated to create drivers for obsolete Operating Systems.

Someone may be able to help you get drivers that are close and the system will operate.  I wish you good luck in your search.

 

 

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After formatting the drive and wiping away the evil and bloated XP OS, I created a boot menu (dos/windows) and used mscdex under dos to at least move files between the CD drive and the hard drive (until I got the CD working under Windows).

I was able to download some Intel chipset drivers using this link:

ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/6934/eng/infinst_enu.exe

And I downloaded the Radeon 9000 video driver using this link:

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wme-catalyst-7-97-031212a-013118c.exe

You can't run the ATI install directly (well you can, but it will reject the install attempt).  Once you unpack the driver, use the control panel display properties to change/update the driver for the display adapter (have-disk, etc).  It will warn you that the driver you tell it to use was not specifically designed for this hardware, but ignore it.  I've got it working at 32-bit, 1280 x 1024.  Sweet.  The Dell drivers CD does not have Win-98 drivers.

I had to change a resource setting (one of the I/O range) for the Intel 82801DBM ATA controller for it to be fully functional (odd - there were no conflicts being displayed but the device wasn't fully functional).  I could then use the 32-bit drivers (and recognize the CD drive) once I changed the resource setting manually.

I still don't have drivers for "other devices" such as PCI card, PCI multimedia audio drivers, PCI USB.  Although the Intel USB host controller (3 of them) and USB root hub (3 of them) are installed and showing no problems).

On startup, it's looking for drivers for "PCI ethernet controller, PCI network controller, and O2Micro-SmartCardBus Reader.

What does the 600m use for an ethernet controller?  Audio?  I guess those are the next drivers to hunt down.

 

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

I'm loading Win98 on my machine right now too, and it's harder than I thought it would be. Luckily, my machine is considerably older, so Dell has some drivers because some of the hardware was available on machines that had Win98 installed.

I'd say that your best bet is to sign in to Dell Premier Support, to see if you can find out what kind of hardware is on your system under "configuration as shipped", then go direct to the manufacturer to see if they have drivers available.

Best of luck!

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Unless I'm missing something, I have to fault Dell for not making it easy to determine the parts used in this 600m inspiron.  Even the docs that come with it are useless.  In contrast, every $75 motherboard from asia gives a schematic layout of their board, the chips used, etc.

Anyways, it seems it uses "Wireless, Mini PCI Card, INTEL2100".  I will check the CD's that came with this thing, but I don't think there are drivers (or win-98 drivers) for it.  This is Intel's "Centrino" hype, and Intel absolutely does not have drivers for it posted on their web site (they say go to vendor or system builder).  Is there no desktop retail-PCI card that uses this chipset (and hence there would be drivers posted somewhere for it?).

Still don't know what this thing uses for the RJ-45 based network port.

I haven't checked the modem yet, but it is "Internal, Modem Daughter Card, BCM94154M".

Not sure if I need a driver for the LCD screen itself (Liquid Crystal Display, TFT, SXGA+, SPWGB, 14.1, SHARP)

No mention of the audio chipset.

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

Well, most of the information you would need is included in the info you can get from the configuration tool and the configuration as shipped tool.

Why not just boot into XP and identify your hardware through the device manager? I'm sure it would be easy to figure it out from there. Or, you can check the downloads section for your machine under WinXP, and try to identify which NIC, etc. you have from the 3 or so that are listed there, and then try to go to the manufacturer for drivers.

You can't really fault Dell for not making it easy to determine your hardware under Win98, when the machine was never meant to be used with 98 on it.

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

Why not boot into XP and ID the hardware that way?

What if I formatted the hard drive and wiped XP completely away first?

It's irrelavent now.  I've installed drivers for the Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated controller, a generic cardbus controller, O2 Micro smart card bus reader, and (for the heck of it) some blue-tooth drivers (even though no blue-tooth hardware was ordered as part of this Inspiron 600m).

So basically this Inspiron is fully functional as a laptop running Windows 98, in spite of Micro$oft's (and Dell's) desires to the contrary.

The only remaining driver is for the wireless ethernet adapter (Intel Pro/Wireless 2100A LAN MiniPCI Adapter Type 3B).  The .INI files that I've come across do list the relavant DLL, SYS, and INF files that are specific for Windows 9X/98, (which means they must exist somewhere) but I have yet to find them (W70n98.sys, W70n98.CAT, W70n98.INF as listed in the file SETUPWLD.INI that is part of the Intel PRO/Wireless base driver install application).

As I have no plans to use the wireless ethernet device at this point, this isin't too important.  But if anyone knows where I can find those files, please post it here.

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After a little more poking I found a link to the 2100A drivers on Toshiba's South African web site.  Here's the link (apparently to Toshiba's German web site):

http://support.toshiba-tro.de/tools/portege/pm100/win-98/wlesslan-pm100-win98-1160.zip

 

Message Edited by sm5w2 on 01-31-2004 12:06 AM

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Re: Inspiron 600m and Windows 98: Drivers available / downloadable?

Could you give links to the locations of the drivers you found?

Thanks!

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I'll put together a more comprehensive post later, but unless I've missed anything I've posted links to (all?) the drivers in earlier posts.  It hasn't been easy to find win-98 drivers for this 600m.  There is clearly a consipiracy to kill 98 by hiding drivers and not making them available (not because 98 has any inherent shortcoming as an OS).  Many vendors of chips and components are using the excuse that "hey, we just make the chips, go to your computer vendor or system integrator for the drivers".  Intel claims to have something called "reference drivers" but I can't find them.

Here's a link some of you might find interesting:

http://www.intel.com/support/notebook/centrino/os.htm

Anyways, here is a link to the audio drivers:

ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/5500/eng/5.10.3686.certified.exe

I am still trying to get the modem working.  Dell's part number for it is BCM94154M which there is no mention of such a number anywhere on the internet.  This is a Broadcom modem, basically equivalent to a controller-less "win-modem" typically used by desktop pc's.  After many downloads of what looked like good candidates from Dell, Gateway, and a few other places, I actually did manage to install what looked like a driver that the system was happy with, and a "BCM V.92 Voicemodem" now appears in my device list.  But it doesn't work (although the device manager says it's working fine).  It doesn't appear to have created any sort of working link to a COM port.  I've been studying the .INI and .INF files related to all the modem drivers I've gathered as well as run the program ListMdm to see what the Vendor ID, Device ID, Sub-vendor ID and Device ID are for this device.  I might have to alter the content of some of these .INF files, or disable the modem and buy a third-party modem for this thing (one that comes with win-98 drivers).

The modem file I found is: Msi_MS-6946_win9xme.zip (which I've tried but can't determine where I got it from).  Somehow it's associated with a Microstar motherboard (6946) but internally the files are Gateway drivers dated 8/6/02.  This page might help:

http://www.modemsite.com/56k/bcm.asp

A few things I still have to look into:

1) volume control and speaker mute buttons (beside the power button) don't seem to work (but I can play sounds through the speakers).  What Dell-specific audio applications or utilities should I look into?

2) When shutting down, I get the "it is now ok to turn your computer off" message instead of the computer turning itself off.   Anyone know how to make that work?

 

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