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Otto89
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Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Hi,

We have 3 laptops in my family: Latitude E6420 and E6430 and a Precision M4600.

I wanted to upgrade all configs with an mSATA SSD which is placed into the WWAN (mPCI-e) connector.

It works fine with the Precision but I can't use it with the Latitudes. Is there any possibility to use it with the Latitudes?

My first thought was to update the bios of the E6430 (it came with A03), i just downloaded the A07 for that and ran the updater, but it failed somehow (i ran the exe, when the process finished the system rebooted, i saw the update in progress in the post screen and than when it restarted again it said no bootable device, press f2 to run bios, but bios was damaged, could not run) and killed my motherboard. Now it is replaced with a new one but i'm afraid to run an update again (now it has A02).

Could you check up the issue of the failure? Is it safe to try a bios update again? And can it help me to update the bios to use the mSATA SSD?

Regards,

Otto

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Re: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Hi Otto89,

Latitude E6420 and E6430 are not designed to install the mSATA drive on the system. The slot provided is for WWAN cards. Therefore, I am afraid there will be no BIOS update released to customize the mSATA drive.

Please reply for any queries.

Patrik80
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Re: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Hello.

Is it still valid regarding DELL 6430? I have just seen this ppt where is mentioned mobility SATA support up to 256GB.

Is it possible to install it to WWAN port now?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=dell%20e6430%20msata%20in%20wwan&source=web&cd=24&ved=0CD4QFj...

Thank you in advance for your answer

Patrik

 

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torbendalum
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Re: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Tes mSATA and mPCI  use the same port, but to be able to support mSATA the port need to have a SATA controler contected to it, the latitude does not have it, but the the Precision do, so it is able to use both types. I have a E6430 to, so it would have been nice if it were supported.

There are actually not many laptops that support this dual function. The newer Dell Vostro and Presition do and all newer lenovo thinkpads does as well, no HP support it as far as I know.

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torbendalum
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Re: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

I am here talking about laptops with a 2.5" drive, a lot of small laptops/ultrabooks with only mSATA port of course support mSATA drives.

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Cornstick
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RE: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

I had my 6420 apart a couple of months ago and I clearly remember seeing TWO mini-PCIe slots.  One labeled WWAN and one labeled mSATA.  The WWAN slot was 90 degrees from the mSATA slot.  It appeared that the mSATA only had enough room to accommodate the mini-mSATA sized card while the WWAN slot could accommodate the full sized mini-PCIe card.

Also you could only use one card (WWAN or mSATA) as the same space inside the cabinet was being used.

I should add I have the E6420-ATG.  I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

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RE: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Cornstick is exactly correct. I have a many of the M and E series Dells here and the M4400 and M4500 can accept the full length (2" long) msata cards. The E6420 and such use what is called msata-mini or half which are 1" in length. One installed it shows up in the bios as a boot option. I have a M4500 here with the CD/DVD bay exchanged to a second hard drive bay. It runs essentially three hard drives, msata, and two 2tb hard drives. The dual 2tb drives are 2.5" samsungs at 9mm thickness.

These laptops DO have a port listed as WWAN which as someone else stated, is a pci path and corresponding bus but it is not a path to a sata controller. There are a few laptop models in which the WWAN labled slot can function as both a pci path and a sata path, but this is listed in the bios as such. The M series and E series mentioned in this post are NOT dual option on that WWAN port.

So basically you need a Dell model that has specifically provided a msata port AND you need to know if the port you have requires a 1 inch (25mm) or 2 inch (50mm) msata card.

Dell M4300 - Has WLAN, WWAN/FCM. The FCM is a Flash Card Module. NOT dual eSata option.

Dell M4400 - Has WLAN, WWAN and mSATA ports. The mSATA port takes 50mm (full card)

Dell M4500 - Has WLAN, WWAN and mSATA ports. The mSATA port takes 50mm (full card)

On the Dell E6420 when you flip it upside down with the battery away from you and remove the cover the WWAN and mSATA ports are to the extreme left, and furthest away from you. The WWAN port inserts to the left and the mSATA inserts away from you. They overlap each other and mSATA is deeper into the machine (the WWAN would lock into place over the mSATA)

The M6420 mSATA port is labeled "mini mylar" on the five units I have here. The computer will run WLAN, WWAN and mSATA at the same time. The WLAN must be 25mm (short). The WWAN must be 50mm (long) and the mSATA must be 25mm (short).

Dell E6520 - Has WLAN, WWAN, and mSATA ports. The mSATA port takes 25mm (half card) and you can runn all three devices at the same time.

Dell XT3 - Has WLAN, WWAN and mSATA ports. The mSATA port takes 25mm (half card)

sunk818
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RE: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

> Dell E6420 - Has WLAN, WWAN and mSATA ports. The mSATA port takes

> 25mm (half card) and you can only run either the WWAN or the mSATA

Can you clarify if this means that I can use WiFi to connect to my home network and also have a mSATA SSD at the same time?

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RE: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

On the Dell E6420 when you flip it upside down with the battery away from you and remove the cover the WWAN and mSATA ports are to the extreme left, and furthest away from you. The WWAN port inserts to the left and the mSATA inserts away from you. They overlap each other and mSATA is deeper into the machine (the WWAN would lock into place over the mSATA)

The M6420 mSATA port is labeled "mini mylar" on the five units I have here. The computer will run WLAN, WWAN and mSATA at the same time. The WLAN must be 25mm (short). The WWAN must be 50mm (long) and the mSATA must be 25mm (short).

Sunk818 - Will run wifi and msata at the same time.

I will correct my original post to reflect this.

kokobok0
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RE: Latitude E6420 and E6430 mSATA SSD compatibility and BIOS issue

Hi, Can you confirm that you have tested the msata port on a latitude e6420!

This "dell Ravi BC" guy is confusing me ( as Dell employee). My latitude's pci-e slot under the wwan card slot is not labeled at all.

Thanks!