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April 15th, 2021 04:00

Dell Latitude 5411 High idle frequency

Hi! I have Dell Latitude 5411 i7-10850H I'm laptop getting hot. I want to describe symptoms depends on BIOS (or either on Power manager software too)
1.3.1:
- Constant fan noise even on low temperatures
- CPU Frequency Stuck on 0.78GHz (0.8GHz) after changing thermal management to Cool or Quite

1.4.3 (Currently installed):
- Fan Speed was resolved
- Now even on ilde (4%-5%) CPU load. CPU is on 2.3 - 2.5GHz with temperatures about 55-60C

Thermal management plan is Optimized.
Windows power plan is Balanced
Windows Power mode: Better battery.
Turbo Boost Disabled (if enable CPU became hotter and louder)
SpeedStep enabled in BIOS

I understand that 10850H is 45W CPU and it could be hot. Okay, but i'm ready it to be hot on load.
With this issue, it could live on battery only 3-4 hours
Why CPU just cant work at 0.8Ghz at idle and save power?

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April 15th, 2021 05:00

beast_drc1,
 
Thank you. I am reaching out to a Level 2 engineer to get some suggestions as to what can be done. I will respond back to you once I hear back from them on this case.
 
 

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April 15th, 2021 05:00

here Graps after clean reboot. No saftware launched, but ITU and Task Manager. On grpaph you cold see 1.45 min freq and 2.45 max freq. At Absolutely idle. System was about 10 minutes at idle before i launched ITU to be sure than all startup tasks are done.
So at absolute idle frequency jumps between 1.45 - 2.00 GHz Fan never shut up.
I previosly own Presicion 7510. I realize that it has more powerful cooling system, but 5411 i cant leave powered on at night, because it is noisy.

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April 15th, 2021 05:00

Another curious thing, that at settings mentioned above 2,58 is the max frequency CPU could reach.
I switched Windows power mode to Best performance and maz cpu freq. rised to 2.68 and stucked on it

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April 15th, 2021 08:00

beast_drc1,

 

Thank you for the image. We will review it and respond back to you.

 

 

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April 15th, 2021 08:00

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April 15th, 2021 08:00

beast_drc1,

 

In task manager what is the CPU speed being used? Also, what

temp reading do you get from EPSA Diags?  Please post  task manager image from performance http://del.ly/6607HF4Dz run the Support Assist diags follow the information and Link here.

The SupportAssist diagnostics (also known as system diagnostics) performs a complete check of your hardware. The Dell SupportAssist Pre-boot System Performance Check diagnostics is embedded with the BIOS and is launched by the BIOS internally. The embedded system diagnostics provides a set of options for particular devices or device groups allowing you to:
Run tests automatically or in an interactive mode
Repeat tests
Display or save test results
Run thorough tests to introduce additional test options to provide extra information about the failed device(s)
View status messages that inform you if tests are completed successfully
View error messages that inform you of problems encountered during testing

NOTE: Some tests for specific devices require user interaction. Always ensure that you are present at the computer terminal when the diagnostic tests are performed.

Post back with the information.

 

 

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April 15th, 2021 09:00

beast_drc1,

 

Please click Steps for Analyzing Overheating or Loud Fan Issues with HWINFO

Post back with the information

 

 

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April 15th, 2021 10:00

EPSA Results:
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April 15th, 2021 10:00

Just want to remind my problem:
1) If i do nothing heavy on laptop and utilization is 0-5% i want it to stay as cool as possible
2) Modern or Connected stand by (Sleep S0) i not usable on the machine, because of fan don't stop in sleep mode and I turned S3 Sleep back on

I believe my Idle problem and and Connected sleep are related

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April 15th, 2021 10:00

beast_drc1,

 

Thank you for the information.  I am sending all this information you have provided to our Level 3 engineers for help in resolving the issue you are facing.  Once I hear back from them I will reply back to you.

 

 

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April 15th, 2021 14:00

With turbo boost enabled behaviour is very bad

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July 18th, 2022 17:00

Set the Dell power manager settings on Optimized.  Reboot and disable Intel Speed Step in the Bios.  Reboot again.  This solved it for me on my 5411 as well as similar coworkers laptops.  Dell power manager is a joke and will betray you.  Leave it on optimized and never touch it again.  

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