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WD19 docking stations - network dropout, USB dropout across multiple models
We are facing issues with WD19s losing Ethernet connections pretty consistently and also USB dropping out randomly throughout the day.
This happens with our latitude 5400 laptops.
The issue persists after we had the motherboard and other parts replaced, 3 new WD19's, and fresh installs of OEM image and latest BIOS and drivers on laptop and dock.
The issue does NOT occur with the WD15 dock and 5400 latitude.
Dell indicated moths ago there would be an August update of the docks firmware. This has not been released.
Has Dell acknowledged this as a known issue ?- there seems to be multiple posts with this same issue with other laptop models.
We were planning on purchasing this model for our fleet...
Dell, any comment?
chrichrichri
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June 7th, 2020 06:00
Just to let you know: The same problem with HP USB 3.1 docking station and a brand new x360. Seems to be better with power savings off (realtek driver). Noticeably: The seme docking station in the office and at home make different timeouts! HP USB-C Universal Dock - Docking Station - USB-C - GigE
Thank you very much for the hints!
iitsmetoo
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June 8th, 2020 05:00
the embedded realtek usb nic seems to be a industry standard as all major brands are using it (Dell, HP and Lenovo). Even the MAC Pass-Through should/is work/-ing depending on vendor and firmware level. This is good to know for interoperability reasons but it is also bad in case they all suffer from the same power saving issue.
Just the power button is vendor specific for whatever reason.
lucky6444
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June 8th, 2020 07:00
There's been a recent firmware update, shows as released on June 4th.
1.41.823.0
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=TBT68
Update time.
sBacaw
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June 8th, 2020 08:00
RobotRock
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June 8th, 2020 10:00
For what it's worth, I have had success by using an electrical contact cleaner spray to clean a WD15 dock's internal connectors.
Here's what I did:
If all goes well, you should have a dock that's more resilient to the cable moving. That is, until the contacts become dirty again...
princebuy
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June 11th, 2020 14:00
I just noticed this same phenomenon with my WD19TB. My firmware is one week old. Not worth trying the one released yesterday?
Russael
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June 12th, 2020 12:00
I might have another solution for everyone to try:
In the BIOS, there is a setting under Power Management called Type-C Connector Power. By default, it is set to 7.5w with an option to go to 15w. Apparently this setting is for devices that draw power to be current limited to either 7.5 or 15w. However, I changed this setting to 15w and my dock's ethernet hasn't dropped today, once. I also returned ALL ethernet settings back to default energy saving (allow device to be turned off, green ethernet on, the works). I was also never able to keep the maximum power settings under Windows power profile for PCI-E to something other than max due to group policy.
It is just one more thing to try and I have gone a day or two before it decides to flip out on me (but that was with all energy saving disabled; with it on it would flip out within an hour).
Those of you with Thunderbolt connectors might have another setting for power management within the bios, but I just have USB-C with a Latitude 5490.
princebuy
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June 13th, 2020 12:00
I looked for this in my bios settings (XPS 15 7590, bios 1.6), but couldn't find it. Let us know how it goes.
princebuy
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June 13th, 2020 14:00
Wired ethernet in my WD19TB just dropped again. I unplogged the thunderbolt cable from the xps15 7590 computer, and then plugged it back in again (no power cycling on computer or docking station) and ethernet works once again. Is that a clue as to the origin of the problem?
Russael
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June 13th, 2020 15:00
@princebuy Looked at Dell's site for your bios settings and yeah, looks like yours doesn't have that option, but it does have a USB Powershare option. Could try turning that on, but that's grasping at straws. I'm still not 100% if the change I made was the holy grail or not. Will find out more during the work week.
I also see some logging options for your machine:
System Logs
Anything pop in there when your ethernet goes nuts?
There is also an option for Power Management (Peak Shift). No idea what that does or what options are available for it.
Because the ethernet literally drops out of the system (it isn't the same thing as having the ethernet cable unplugged), I'm starting to think this isn't a driver issue.
princebuy
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June 14th, 2020 04:00
I checked the logs in the bios and I didn't see any events corresponding to the times at which ethernet dropped.
When I lose hard-wired ethernet from the docking station, I can manually switch to Wifi - and that doesn't give me internet either. I can't even get to my router with the usual 192.168.1.1 command. As you point out, the problem is something deeper. Never any problem with USB ports after I updated firmware on the WD19TB (they didn't work out of the box). Using the docking station alone - never putting it to sleep - just kills internet access about once a day. Strange.
iitsmetoo
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June 14th, 2020 23:00
@princebuy
is the wired connection really disconnected "no leds" (or unplug the cable) in this situation? if the link of the wired lan is still up it could prevent windows from switch automatically.
Are you using the builtin Windows Connection Manager instead of the bios setting for switching between WiFi and wired connection? For some people it helps to manually disable WiFi in Windows or unplug the network cable to prevent windows from flapping the wifi/wired connection.
Russael
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June 15th, 2020 15:00
Day number 2... no bouncing, no flapping on the dock NIC.
I powercycled the dock at the end of the work day and will see how it behaves tomorrow.
iitsmetoo
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June 16th, 2020 01:00
@Russael
hhmm, increasing the power level to 15w in bios didn't help me on an Latitude 5300 with usb-c WD19 dock. But it was worth a try.
mikelback
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June 16th, 2020 03:00
I have 5400 DW19 usb-c and setup 15w in bios from the purchase.
In my case, this setting has no impact on dropping Ethernet in Lock state, too.