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DDR4 RAM compatibilty Dell Optiplex 3060/5060/7060 Micro
Hi,
do the new Dell Optiplex, f.e. with default CPU option i5 8500T, also run with DDR4 2400 as well without any limitations regarding clock frequence, multi, turboboost, performance (just CPU) etc as well?
Intel says they support 2666Mhz, and I for sure know that faster RAM would also work since these can go on lower frequency, but what about RAM with lower one?
Thanks.
speedstep
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February 14th, 2019 05:00
Optiplex models are Not XPS game systems and do not have XMP or overclocking.
Turbo Boost is marketing not a setting.
Intel Turbo Boost Technology is a way to run one processor core faster.
The processor stays working in the power, temperature, and specification
limits of the thermal design power (TDP). When the other cores are Idle it
runs one of the cores faster.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000021587/processors.html
You can monitor this with the Power Gadget
Intel® Power Gadget is a software-based power usage monitoring tool enabled for Intel® Core™ processors (from 2nd Generation up to 7th Generation Intel® Core™ processors).
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget-20
ToddK80
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February 15th, 2019 00:00
Even this having somewhat interesting information, this doesnt answer my question or atleast it doesnt make things more clear.
Da_Vinman
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February 15th, 2019 06:00
It should, as the H370/Q370 offers:
Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
But when it comes to the Optiplex 3060 and 5060, who really knows, as they both used a "stripped-down chipset revision" that doesn't match to official specs (i.e. it's PCI 2.0 instead of 3.0 on the system/SSD bus) and only the 7060 has a full chipset implementation of the Q370 and should run at all supported DDR4 speeds.
If you haven't bought one yet, and are planning on using newer techologies like NVMe SSDs or fooling around with DDR4 speeds, then definitely look at the 7060, as the 3060 and 5060 do not use real Coffee Lake chipsets as per the Intel specs.
ToddK80
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February 20th, 2019 02:00
Thanks for the reply.
Originally my plan was either looking for a quite good 5050/7050 where i can put my own 16GB DDR4 2400 RAM into or buying a 3060/5060/7060 where either same RAM fits, otherwise I need to sell my 16gb and buy new 2666mhz one additionally, since most come with 8GB (16gb ones are too expensive, I upgrade myself).
Maybe it ends up myself playing a bit try and error.
NVMe is indeed a good thing, but I think i dont deal with such.
Thanks again.
Da_Vinman
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February 20th, 2019 05:00
I will say that the DDR4-2400 *should* work with the 3060/5060 as the chipset seems to be fully-featured on the CPU/memory side of things. CPU and memory benchmarks are high and everything seems to be good there as well, it's the "south" part of the chipset that seems to be stripped-down with PCIe 2.0.
And I used to feel the same way with NVMe, that is until prices fell through the floor and I was able to pick up a top-end PCIe 3.0 x4 512GB model for $100 (regularly $250) because of the emergence of cheap QLC... then finding out the 3060 and 5060 do not fully support it and that their specs are wrong.
It's just nicer knowing that flaw *before* you buy than after, as I could have saved even more money going with a $60 older PCIe 2.0 512GB SSD. You might want to go that route in the future, and at least now you know.
WooHoo202
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September 11th, 2019 06:00
So does that mean that hyper x ram would not be recognised?
speedstep
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September 11th, 2019 06:00
None of the Optiplex models have overclocking or Bios Ram Speed settings.
Putting faster ram in ANY system does not run faster. The FSB of the CPU and whether or not the multiplier is locked or not has more to do with speed. Ram speed and the Mhz Myth are alive and well.
XMP(Extreme Memory Profiles) is a set profiles which you must have in BIOS to overclock your memory. NONE of the optiplex models have "overclocking" for CPU or Ram etc. Intel® XMP Certified memory modules have been tested on specific motherboards using specified processors.
BIOS and CPU and Chipset etc must ALL support this or it means absolutely nothing.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk