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Once and for all, can someone clear up the confusion about a Quad upgrade in a Optiplex 760 DT model??
I have read many threads on this forum about upgrading from an Intel Exxxx series cpu to a Qxxxx series quad core. Some say it can be done, some say not. Some say only the MT model can handle a quad. Some of the supporting motherboard numbers are listed for MT in the forum but not for DT. I have a MB that is not listed in any of the forums, 0R230R in a 760 DT. The DT only has a 255 watt psu and some say that is not enough wattage to run a quad, some say it is.
The heat sink also comes into play. There are 2 types of heat sinks for the DT model, one is for Quad and one is for Duo 2 cores. Those part numbers are readily available on the form or via net search.
Can someone with some advanced knowledge or practical application knowledge finally put this issue to rest?
Will a Quad Core Intel Q9000 series run in a Optiplex 760 DT model with a 0R230R motherboard and a 255 watt psu?? If not, are there any motherboards for the DT model that will run an Intel Q9000 series cpu? Will the heat sink need to be upgraded to the copper tube type if a quad is installed?
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December 3rd, 2020 11:00
There is no once and for all because there is no one size fits all
@DELL-Chris M might have more information.
OptiPlex 760 MT LGA 775 Socket T
The Optiplex 760 MT uses two motherboards -
T674K Non-Quad core CPU motherboard
U562N Quad core CPU motherboard
DESKTOP USES R239R, D517D, M859N Dont know which one
if I venture to guess I would say M859N
M869N
SFF M863N supports QUAD no other.
F373D M863N N449H J656F
Fastest supported CPU on NON USFF is
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9650/3.00GHz, 12M, 1333FSB
DT MT SFF seem to support this but it does not go into WHICH BOARDS and HEATSINKS and RAM support this.
https://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/products/optix/optix_760_tech_guide.pdf
There are versions of the BIOS and board and power supply and heatsink and Ram that support quads with 1333MHZ FSB and there are versions that DO NOT.
its not one piece or one size one and done.
There are many PARTS
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December 3rd, 2020 13:00
Optiplex 760
Four chassis types
MT (Mini Tower), DT (Desktop), SFF (Small Form Factor), USFF (Ultra Small Form Factor)
The problem is our parts tool list all of these for Optiplex 760. It does not split them out by MT or DT.
F824K Q8200 Yorkfield Quad Core Kit, 2.33, 4MB, 95W, FSB 1333, M1 (Contains Processor F309J)
XVKFK Q8200 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.33, 4MB, 95W, FSB 1333, R0 (Contains Processor H726R)
K213N Q8300 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.50, 4MB, 95W, FSB 1333, R0 (Contains processor R714K)
099K1 Q8300 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.50, 4MB, 95W, FSB 1333, R0 (Contain processor PMD32)
80X97 Q8400 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.66, 4MB, 95W, FSB 1333, R0 (Contain Processor J500T)
N650J Q9400 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.66, 6MB, 95W, FSB 1333 (Contains Processor D446H)
F83C4 Q9505 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.83, 6MB, 95W, FSB 1333, R0 (Contains Processor 8X6F2)
F886J Q9550 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 2.83, 12MB, 95W, FSB 1333, E0 (Contains processor F357H)
N652J Q9650 Yorkfield Quad Core kit, 3.00, 12MB, 95W, FSB 1333, E0 (Contain Processor C452H)
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December 3rd, 2020 12:00
M858N is a P/N for 760MT. This motherboard supports core 2 quad cpu.
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December 3rd, 2020 12:00
@redxps630
M859N is a DESKTOP which is the OP not M858N is not U562N MT
@DELL-Chris M would have more information.
So I'm not sure why you post it. If you are going to give advice you should at least know what you are referencing.
I was referencing the DESKTOP not SFF not MT
" optiplex copper heatsink " is the performance heat-sink not the Standard
Heat-sink for ANY model or size. Standard heat-sink is just a chunk of aluminum HR004 for tower and HR544 for Desktop Neither is COPPER.
STANDARD is NOT copper
So again I'm not getting your reference which is not correct.
Performance Heatsink
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December 3rd, 2020 16:00
I got a handful of optiplex 745 DT heatsink from business PC that ran pentium dual core to core2 cpus. they all have copper plate. these are compatible with 760/755 DT.
Desktop heat sink R6852 (copper)
I also got a few heatsink that are aluminum based. I have not correlated which heatsink for which cpu.
If OP has aluminum heatsink and would like to upgrade to quad cpu, should consider upgrade heatsink to copper.
When someone bought these old optiplex running pentium or c2d from Dell, whether copper or aluminum is included in the standard spec might be related on the cpu spec that came with the PC.
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December 3rd, 2020 21:00
Thanks for all the information that poured in. I'm still in the dark about my motherboard 0R230R and if it can handle a quad core. I've been all over this forum and the net looking for information on this board. Some of the information says it can, some says it can't. I don't want to drop $50 on the cpu if it's not going to run in the MB I have. I would also have to purchase the copper heat sink and shroud so looking at around $75 total for a possible fame or fail situation.
I just need to know if the "elusive" 0R230R motherboard will run an Intel Q9000 series cpu before dropping the hammer on the parts to upgrade to the quad. This is a budget build and I don't want to throw good money at a bad or high risk idea.
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December 3rd, 2020 22:00
Sometimes reverse engineering of old pc to try to make it work by purchasing parts you do not have ends up costing more than necessary than starting from original Dell stock. If I were you I would think twice before investing in parts for 760 DT. DT is always a less desirable upgrade option than MT. If your goal is to do light gaming having fun on old optiplex, think of getting an MT which would open up much more possibilities than DT (nonstandard non-upgradable psu, low profile video card only). I think banging heads on wall trying to figure out which Dell P/N is quad vs non quad board is much harder without inside info which Dell rarely discloses. In my local market a complete working c2d 760DT is priced around 50-60. Would I invest 50-75 on top of such low value hardware to upgrade? I probably would not, but you may have special reason for your 760. I am just suggesting as one door closes or not sure you want to go there, another door is widely open to consider.
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December 4th, 2020 01:00
"I have not correlated which heatsink for which CPU."
Dell has which is why the copper performance heat-sink is specified for specific Pentium D and Quad core processors. Those CPU's tend to run a lot hotter and require the copper performance heat-sink.
if you use the aluminum heat-sink the CPU tends to throttle and stall due to overheating as the aluminum heat-sink doesn't get the heat away fast enough.
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https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln306267
PPID
CN-0M859N-13740-927-01A9
CN = China
0M859N = Dell Part number
13740 = Manufacturer Factory (confidential)
927 = Date code (Year, Month, Day)
01A9 = Manufacturer code (confidential)
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December 4th, 2020 01:00
0R230R is not a model that I have EVER seen listed supporting quads.
End users do not have access to dell engineering technical data.
Dell Optiplex 760 Motherboard M859N may be the model that does but this is speculation not confirmation.
https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln306267/
What is the PPID number? PPID (Piece Part Identification) numbers are affixed to specific Dell parts as a means to identify and or track individual components. Dell PPID numbers can be utilized to determine the age and the part number of a particular part
Every Dell PPID number contains five separate sets of information for a total of 20-digits.
PPID
DELL PPID
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December 4th, 2020 01:00
pentium dual core Presler vs. Smithfield
64 BIT models are preferred
Presler is the 900 series from 915 to 960
Smithfield is the 800 series
The reason to care is that the 915 and up work fine in Optiplex GX620 up to 960.
Having PRESLER means you can run Dual Core and Windows 10 64 bit because the 900 series supports
LAHF SAHF 64 bit instruction required to run Windows 8.1 and 10 64 bit.
If you have 800 series you can still run windows 8.1 and 10 but ONLY 32 bit versions.
Pentium D 915 is very cheap sometimes as little as $5. This is the go to CPU for really old models like the GX620 or XPS 400. Just make sure you update BIOS before changing cpu.
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-915-Processor-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07DLFM1WN
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So what I can tell from this is that 13740 is Foxconn.
927 is 2009 FEB 7th
PPID
CN-0M859N-13740-927-01A9
CN = China
0M859N = Dell Part number
13740 = Manufacturer Factory (Foxconn)
927 = Date code (Year, Month, Day) 2009 FEB 7th
01A9 = Manufacturer code (confidential)
https://www.foxconn.com/en-us/
https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln306267
The Core 2 brand was introduced on July 27, 2006, comprising the Solo (single-core), Duo (dual-core), Quad (quad-core), and in 2007, the Extreme (dual- or quad-core CPUs for enthusiasts) subbrands.
intel logos
MADE BY FOXCONN
NOTE 13740
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@DELL-Chris M
Can you post the 95W to 130w copper performance heatsink part numbers for the various sizes
MT DT SFF USFF
https://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/products/optix/optix_760_tech_guide.pdf
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December 4th, 2020 05:00
R230R = Optiplex 760 DT motherboard. Only for Asia/Pacific and Brazil. Use kit W158R.
These are all of the heatsinks shown for Optiplex 760. None of these descriptions mention wattage or copper?
JN738 = Optiplex 760 MT, heatsink with shroud
HR004 = Optiplex 760 MT, heatsink with shroud for Conroe and Celeron CPUs
RW134 = Optiplex 760 DT, heatsink with shroud, 2.0
JY385 = Optiplex 760 DT, heatsink with shroud
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December 4th, 2020 06:00
There are likely more DP/N that these (RW134, R6852) for optiplex 745/755 DT copper heatsink. Quite sure they also work for 760/780 DT. All these BTX motherboard have same engineering of cpu socket layout with heatsink retainer screw holes and shrouds. Same statement can be made for MT and SFF, i.e., 745/55/60/80 copper heatsink/shroud interchangeable within each form factor. This may also include 360/380.