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December 2nd, 2021 16:00

Optiplex 7050 SFF graphics upgrade

So im planning to buy an Optiplex 7050 with a 7th gen core i7, im thinking of putting in a graphics card to make it a gaming pc but as its a small pc im not sure if it will fit. The graphics card is an ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 Overclocked 6GB Phoenix Fan Edition HDMI DP DVI Graphics Card (PH-GTX1660-O6G) or the link -https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07PHWBHHX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1F1LZOG5L7SNX&psc=1

so I’m wondering if that graphics card would fit.

 

thanks a lot!

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December 4th, 2021 23:00

afaik Dell has not updated bios for 7060 to support 9th, but user has successfully hacked Dell bios for 7060micro to add microcode for 9th.

If mini tower optiplex then full height gpu 1660 w psu upgrade up to 500w are doable. 

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December 2nd, 2021 19:00

The generation the Optiplex 7050 is in isn't the best for big gaming upgrades.  From the spec sheet:  Supports optional discrete graphics Tower/Small Form Factor: AMD Radeon™ R5 430 1GB/2GB, AMD Radeon™ R7 450 4GB

Though the GTX 1660 would likely fit in the tower (too fat for an SFF, needs to be LP (low profile)), the 7050 comes with a 240w PSU (tower) or 180w PSU (SFF) which can't power a 120w GPU which requires an additional 1x8-pin connection.  Other than what's listed, it's hard to recommend any GPU to go with 180w PSU.  I don't think super low watt GPU is what you're looking for.

A couple of things to consider - a little older or newer; may depend upon budget.  Older meaning a 9020 or XE2 which are bigger towers, introduced around 2014 or newer.  The full-size towers can take full-size PSU upgrades, which would be necessary for the GTX 1660.  A full-size PSU would have to sit outside the 7050 tower.

Then there's the generation newer than the 7050, XX80's and XX90's.  The 7080 and 7090 both have available 500w PSU's.  Spec sheets can be Googled.  Optiplex 7080 Spec Sheet  Optiplex 7090 Spec Sheet 

If there's a higher watt PSU crossover for the 7050, redxps630 will know it before I will and might chime in, but it would have to be the tower for the GTX 1660 being looked at.

 

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December 2nd, 2021 19:00

P.S.  ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 Overclocked 6GB Phoenix Fan Edition needs at least a 450w PSU.

As I mentioned a previous generation of the Optiplex, whichever Optiplex you consider, we can check the possibility of bottleneck between GPU and CPU.

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December 2nd, 2021 22:00

brad is correct that PH-GTX1660-O6G is a full height card and would not fit a SFF case.

Low profile cards are limited to a maximum height of 2.536 inches.

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to support i7-7700 in 7050 and gtx 1660 you would need a 360+w psu.

Load Wattage:316 W
Recommended PSU Wattage:366 W

even if you do not use hdd and odd, the recommended psu is still 325w.

psu can be upgraded to a higher power Dell proprietary psu (360w, 460w, or 500w).   because 1660 requires an 8 pin PCIe connector, Dell psu needs to have a 6 pin (which is effectively 8 pin).

for example, Dell 360w psu PCFT5 Chicony or 2VD0G 360w Liteon

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GENUINE Dell XPS 8940 Desktop Power Supply PSU H360EBM-00 PCFT5 360W 80+ Bronze | eBay

re: cpu and gpu match

i7-7700 w 1660 is good for 1080p gaming overall, not very good for 1440p, and not good for 4k.

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GTX 1660 benchmark with i7-7700 1080p, 1440p, Ultrawide, 4K benchmarks at Ultra Quality - GPUCheck United States / USA

 

 

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December 3rd, 2021 13:00

The only thing I don't agree on is PSU.  I don't think PSU should be stretched to the max or close to it.  Better to have some power left over.  With redxps630 knowing more about PSU's than I do, either one could be right.

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December 4th, 2021 15:00

7060 SFF case is also low profile and would not support full profile gpu such as  PH-GTX1660-O6G.

December 4th, 2021 15:00

if you can here is a link of the gpu im thinking of putting in it, would it fit being single fan?

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07PHWBHHX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1F1LZOG5L7SNX&psc=1

December 4th, 2021 15:00

thanks for the reply, im thinking of getting the 7060 now with i5 8th gen, if i got it (sff) and upgraded the psu to a genuine dell 500watt psu would it work with the graphics card?

December 4th, 2021 15:00

thanks  

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December 4th, 2021 16:00

6 Professor

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December 4th, 2021 16:00

It looks like the same one you linked already.  It won't fit in any SFF model.  If you want the PC to revolve around the GTX 1660 you want, you'd have to get a tower.

Below are 2 images.  First one is the back of a 7060 SFF and the next a 7060 mini tower.  See the difference in width?

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December 4th, 2021 17:00

so then should i get a mini case?

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December 4th, 2021 17:00

In reference to the GTX 1660, PSU would still need upgrading.

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December 4th, 2021 17:00

Hopefully you're caught up with my 3 replies above.  : )

Yes, get a mini tower.  Keep in mind I'm not trying to sell you anything as this is strictly unpaid volunteer except for Dell moderation.  If it were me, I'd get a 7080 mini tower with a 500w PSU.  Otherwise, you'll be buying a new or refurb or used PC and yet have to invest in another PSU.  Entirely up to you.  Refurb XE2 or 9020 will cost much less and may leave more room in the budget for PSU upgrade.  But I don't know how tricky it is to get Win11 working on those models.

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December 4th, 2021 21:00

It is essentially impossible to find a low profile GTX1660 (at least for me).  GTX1650 LP is possible.

Modern series 5-6 optiplex desktop pc after the last 9020 series 4 in general is not good long term investment option for gaming pc due to proprietary form factor mobo n psu.  If you get a very cheap or free 7050sff that someone is giving away then just for the fun of it spend a little to upgrade for light gaming hobby would be understandable.  Btw if possible do not get 7060 but rather 7070.  They are essentially same mobo w different bios.  Dell has not released bios upgrade for 7060.  7060 is stuck w Intel 8th cpu while 7070 supports 9th gen cpu.  A user aptly said Dell literally sold a new model for a new microcode.

 

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