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September 22nd, 2021 09:00

PERC S100 - RAID 1 Virtual Array delete or not

Hi would be grateful for some help.......

Inherited the care of Dell T310 server with SBS 2008 and a degraded RAID 1 virtual disk - disk has stopped rebuilding at 52%.

Disks are 0:0 and 0:1 - disk 0:1 had stalled at 52% rebuilding.

If I disconnect Disk 0:1 the server will fully boot up and everything works - so Disk 0:0 contains the Boot device....

No options in Open Manage to change 0:1 to  a Hot Spare.

When I took out Disk 0:1, I cleaned it (Diskpart) and it still only rebuilt to 52% !

I have a recent back up and have also copied the drive with Aomei

I suspect that I need to delete the Virtual Array, but the warning message : "Warning! All data will be lost. Please make sure that this virtual disk does not contain your boot device! Continue with delete? " scares the life out of me.

Its also contradicted , I think, by these posts:

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000134482/perc-s100-s110-s300-how-to-replace-a-failed-hard-drive-on-a-software-raid

https://www.dell.com/community/PowerEdge-HDD-SCSI-RAID/Does-erasing-a-virtual-disk-really-erase-the-contents/td-p/5094247

Sorry to waffle, in the end, Can I delete the Virtual Array or is there another solution to get past 52% ?

Cheers Marc

 

 

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September 22nd, 2021 20:00

Hi, rebuilding occurs after a disk replacement or a disk fail. Which one was it, could you tell us? Also could you give us the part number for the disk (two if replacement)?

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September 22nd, 2021 20:00

Hi

thanks for the reply

The disk failed and I then managed to get hold of a new disk with same Dell part number as the 0:0 disk ( they all match)

Will get part number when can access server later today.

Best

Marc

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September 23rd, 2021 01:00

disk part number.jpg

Above gives you the parts number

 

52% mprogress.png

Above shows the disk stalled at 52% (and the other Array on this server)

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September 23rd, 2021 05:00

Hello @Exminiman,

 

Thank you! I can see the part number of the disk. It is 1KWKJ and I can confirm the Disk is compatible with the server PowerEdge T310. Are you sure you replaced the failed disks and both disks are good now? If the server was on warranty, I would be sure to check the hardware logs.


How did you handle the process of disk replacement? Did you assigned the new driver as hot spare? I suggest you to check this post: https://dell.to/3o5OGoV


Regards.

 

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September 23rd, 2021 17:00

Hi 

thanks for the link etc, I had followed the procedure listed below. 

DEC89729-0827-40FB-B753-A7E0ACF12B7F.png

 

 

 

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September 23rd, 2021 17:00

In an effort to move things along I have run the process above again. 

Powered off the server ( no option to hot swap on PERC S100)

Removed disk 0:1 cleaned it with Diskpart.

Powered on server

 Checked BIOS RAID ( ctrl R), could do nothing as When you select Phsical Disk 0:1 it says still part of Virtual Disk

Let boot to OS

followed procedure in Open Manage

Disk rebuilt to 52% again, and stopped!

One thing I did notice was when a selected the HOT Spare to rebuild there was a warning about the disk not being large enough, or something like that ( but it is) This I took to be a message associated with the other Virtual  disk which is larger.

However, when I took over this Server a previous attempt had been made to rebuild the array using a larger disk, which had also stalled, at 54% I think from memory.

Is it possible that the Virtual Disk has  a rogue tag left over from this larger disk ?

 

Re an earlier question; is it actually possible to delete the Virtual Disk, preserve the data and rebuild with PERC S100?   The links in my first question to Dell instructions seem to say that you have to delete the Virtual Disk to rebuild it 

thanks for you help 

 

regards

Marc

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September 23rd, 2021 19:00

Is it possible that the Virtual Disk has a rogue tag left over from this larger disk ? -> For S100, I'm afraid it is impossible. 

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September 24th, 2021 03:00

Another thought

Does the RAID controller need to think that this disk has been degraded, rather than just stalling at 52%.

if so could it work to ;

power down server 

remove disk 0:1

reboot server to OS, without disk

power down server

replace disk

reboot server

And then go through rebuilding procedure….

 

I am not near the server so I am trying to formulate a plan for when i visit site

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September 24th, 2021 04:00

Hello again!


Honestly, I am starting to think there is a problem with the replacement disk or with the disk that stayed on the RAID. It is not normal that the rebuild stops at 52%. A PERC log analysis would be required. There are probably errors recorded on the PERC, either during the rebuild or in the historic log.


Do you have the possibility to make a whole backup, delete the VD, initialize to erase all data and the recreate the RAID and restore the backup?


Regards.

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September 24th, 2021 13:00

Hello Marc,

 

The S100 does not keep a controller log. You can find storage evens in the Windows System Event Log and also look in the LifeCycle Controller log. ( I think that is available in OpenManage. If not you can reboot and do F10 for the LifeCycle controller to view the LCC log.)

 

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September 24th, 2021 13:00

Hi 
how do I get a log analysis for a PERC S100?
best

Marc

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September 28th, 2021 00:00

Hi

Back in harness again today so will check the logs and report back.

May also try another disk

 

Thanks for staying with this

Best

Marc

 

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September 28th, 2021 09:00

Hi 

Could some one bottom this Dell "Help Article" out for me?

I keep going back to it, because it seems to say that you have to delete the original virtual signature before adding a new disk - am i misunderstanding ?

Please read the steps on the page/link and comment - even if its to say I am being stupid 

link https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000134482/perc-s100-s110-s300-how-to-replace-a-failed-hard-drive-on-a-software-raid

 

Delete virtual signature.jpg

 

 

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September 28th, 2021 10:00

Heya Exminiman,

 

Apologies if this seems a little silly, but I'm not sure what you mean when you ask to bottom the article out. If you could clarify, I may be able to better answer this specific part.

 

Regarding the S100 controller, the controller is unfortunately not as robust as the hardware offerings. The S100 does not maintain a log, so troubleshooting issues with it can be troublesome, at times. Newer versions of OpenManage can sometimes capture helpful data in the Alert Log. I forget the exact text of the error, but the Alert Log was the only place to locate the message, so I would encourage you to review that log, if you haven't already. When there are errors with the RAID metadata, the array is not capable of rebuilding because the RAID algorithm would be missing the necessary data to complete the rebuild. This ends up necessitating redeployment.

 

From the thread, it sounds like your array may well be compromised. If you'd like to send a copy of the Alert log to me, I'd be happy to look it over for you.

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September 28th, 2021 11:00

HuI Dylan

Thanks for the reply, by "Bottom Out" I just mean, could some one confirm whether I am understanding the Dell Article is correctly and it says you have to delete the Array (or signature) if you need to add a new disk. ?

I should be able to get copy of Alert log across in next hour....

Thanks for your support

Best

Marc

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