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September 19th, 2016 02:00

Loud fan noise

Hello, 

I am prepairing new Dell t430 server with two cpu utins. When srever starts fan noise is normal, but when I plug in PCIe Intell P3500 nvme ssd fans ramp up and is very loud. All frimware and bios are upgraded to the most recent ones. How to reduce fan speed?

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September 26th, 2016 11:00

On the iDRAC Web interface page go to Hardware -> Fans -> Setup and change the Fan Speed Offset to Low. Power down the server and press the power button for about 15 seconds to drain the system flea power and reboot. Monitor the fan RPM and noise.

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September 26th, 2016 14:00

Hi,

I happen to have a T430 with quite a few non-Dell PCI-E cards:

- an NVidia K600 GPU)

- a dual-8Gbps Qlogic FC Card

- an Intel Quad e1000e.

- I have 12 Dimms and 2 x 85W cpus.

My fan speed is usually around 1440 rpm. I followed the same instructions as you did.

Here are my readings:

# ipmitool raw 0x30 0xce 0x01 0x16 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00
16 05 00 00 00 05 00 01 00 00

and:

# ipmitool sdr list full
Inlet Temp | 22 degrees C | ok
Fan1 | 1440 RPM | ok
Fan2 | disabled | ns
Current 1 | 0.40 Amps | ok
Current 2 | no reading | ns
Voltage 1 | 116 Volts | ok
Voltage 2 | no reading | ns
Pwr Consumption | 182 Watts | ok
Temp | 51 degrees C | ok
Temp | 48 degrees C | ok
CPU Usage | 35 percent | ok
IO Usage | 0 percent | ok
MEM Usage | 0 percent | ok
SYS Usage | 34 percent | ok

I wonder what could be different in your system to make it so loud..

Good luck,

Vincent

34 Posts

September 27th, 2016 00:00

I tried what you suggested, but fan is still spinning at the same speed 

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September 27th, 2016 09:00

To confirm that the iDRAC accepted the Fan Speed Offset, run: racadm -r IPADDRESS -u USERNAME -p PASSWORD get system.thermalsettings command. Let us also check the sensors for any abnormality by running: racadm -r IPADDRESS -u USERNAME -p PASSWORD getsensorinfo command. Post the output.

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September 28th, 2016 00:00

C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell\SysMgt\bmc>racadm -r 192.168.192.168 -u root -p calvin getsensorinfo
Security Alert: Certificate is invalid - Certificate is not signed by Trusted Third Party
Continuing execution. Use -S option for racadm to stop execution on certificate-related errors.

SEC0701: Warning: Default username and password are currently in use.
It is strongly recommended to change the default password immediately.

To change the password, run the following racadm command:
"racadm set iDRAC.Users. .Password ".

Alternatively, to avoid this warning message run the following racadm command:
"racadm set iDRAC.Tuning.DefaultCredentialWarning Disabled".


Sensor Type : POWER
                                   
PS1 Status                      Present                  AC
PS2 Status                      Present                  AC

Sensor Type : TEMPERATURE
                  [R/W]  [R/W]
[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardInletTemp]
System Board Inlet Temp       Ok      20C      -7C  47C      3C       42C

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#CPU1Temp]
CPU1 Temp                     Ok      32C      3C   87C      8C       82C

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#CPU2Temp]
CPU2 Temp                     Ok      31C      3C   87C      8C       82C



Sensor Type : FAN
                                         
System Board Fan1               Ok          4200RPM     240RPM      NA          85%

Sensor Type : VOLTAGE
                                 
CPU1 M01 VTT PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 M23 VTT PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 M23 VDDQ PG                Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 3.3V PG            Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board VCCIO PG           Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 5V AUX PG          Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M01 VDDQ PG                Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M01 VTT PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M23 VDDQ PG                Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 M01 VDDQ PG                Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M01 VPP PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 M01 VPP PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 5V SWITCH PG               Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M23 VPP PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 VCORE PG                   Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 VCORE PG                   Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 M23 VPP PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 M23 VTT PG                 Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 1.05V PG           Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 2.5V AUX PG        Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 1.5V AUX PG        Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU1 FIVR PG                    Ok          Good                NA          NA
CPU2 FIVR PG                    Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board 1.5V PG            Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board PS1 PG Fail        Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board PS2 PG Fail        Ok          Good                NA          NA
System Board DIMM PG            Ok          Good                NA          NA
PS2 Voltage 2                   Ok          210.00V             NA          NA
System Board BP1 5V PG          Ok          Good                NA          NA
PS1 Voltage 1                   Ok          210.00V             NA          NA

Sensor Type : CURRENT
                  [R/W]  [R/W]
[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#PS2Current2]
PS2 Current 2                 Ok      0.0Amps  NA   NA       0Amps       0Amps

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardPwrConsumption]
System Board Pwr Consumption  Ok      84Watts  NA   1974Watts 0Watts       1792Watts

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#PS1Current1]
PS1 Current 1                 Ok      0.0Amps  NA   NA       0Amps       0Amps


Sensor Type : PROCESSOR
                                           
CPU1 Status                     Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA
CPU2 Status                     Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA

Sensor Type : MEMORY
                                           
DIMM A1                         Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA
DIMM A2                         Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA
DIMM A3                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM A4                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM A5                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM A6                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM A7                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM A8                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM B1                         Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA
DIMM B2                         Ok          Presence_Detected   NA          NA
DIMM B3                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA
DIMM B4                         N/A         Absent              NA          NA

Sensor Type : BATTERY
                                 
System Board CMOS Battery       Ok          Present             NA          NA

Sensor Type : PERFORMANCE
                                    
System Board Power Optimized    Ok          Not Degraded   NA        NA

Sensor Type : INTRUSION
                      
System Board Intrusion          Closed         Power ON

Sensor Type : REDUNDANCY
                                   
System Board PS Redundancy      Disabled                 PSU
System Board Fan Redundancy     Disabled                 Fan

Sensor Type : SYSTEM PERFORMANCE
                  [R/W]  [R/W]
[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardCPUUsage]
System Board CPU Usage   Ok             0%      NA  NA    NA        101%

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardIOUsage]
System Board IO Usage    Ok             0%      NA  NA    NA        101%

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardMEMUsage]
System Board MEM Usage   Ok             0%      NA  NA    NA        101%

[Key = iDRAC.Embedded.1#SystemBoardSYSUsage]
System Board SYS Usage   Ok             0%      NA  NA    NA        101%

34 Posts

September 28th, 2016 00:00

C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell\SysMgt\bmc>ipmitool -I lanplus -H 192.168.192.168 -U root -P calvin sdr list full
Inlet Temp       | 21 degrees C      | ok
Fan1             | 4200 RPM          | ok
Fan2             | disabled          | ns
Current 1        | 0.05 Amps         | ok
Current 2        | 0.05 Amps         | ok
Voltage 1        | 220 Volts         | ok
Voltage 2        | 220 Volts         | ok
Pwr Consumption  | 84 Watts          | ok
Temp             | 31 degrees C      | ok
Temp             | 32 degrees C      | ok
CPU Usage        | 0 percent         | ok
IO Usage         | 0 percent         | ok
MEM Usage        | 0 percent         | ok
SYS Usage        | 0 percent         | ok

34 Posts

September 28th, 2016 00:00

C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell\SysMgt\bmc>racadm -r 192.168.192.168 -u root -p calvin get system.thermalsettings

[Key=system.Embedded.1#ThermalSettings.1]
#FanSpeedHighOffsetVal=55
#FanSpeedLowOffsetVal=20
#FanSpeedMaxOffsetVal=100
#FanSpeedMediumOffsetVal=35
FanSpeedOffset=Low Fan Speed
#MFSMaximumLimit=100
#MFSMinimumLimit=85
MinimumFanSpeed=255
ThermalProfile=Default Thermal Profile Settings
ThirdPartyPCIFanResponse=Disabled

63 Posts

September 28th, 2016 12:00

Hi,

Sorry about the delay.

It appears that there are in fact -two- settings that can make the T430 a loud neighbour in the field.

Log on to the iDrac using ssh and type the following:

racadm get System.ThermalSettings

You should get an output like this one (I have highlighted the relevant settings):

/admin1-> racadm get System.ThermalSettings
[Key=System.Embedded.1#ThermalSettings.1]
#FanSpeedHighOffsetVal=55
#FanSpeedLowOffsetVal=35
#FanSpeedMaxOffsetVal=100
#FanSpeedMediumOffsetVal=50
FanSpeedOffset=Low Fan Speed  <===================
#MFSMaximumLimit=100
#MFSMinimumLimit=11
MinimumFanSpeed=255
ThermalProfile=Minimum Power
ThirdPartyPCIFanResponse=Disabled    <===================

From what I saw, FanSpeedOffset can only be adjusted to 'Off' by going into the BIOS like this. Otherwise, you get 'LOW', which is 35% fan speed. Off gets you 11% fan speed.

F2->iDrac Settings->Thermal->FanSpeedOffset.

The other setting can be adjusted wihtout using ipmitool by typing this from the admin1-> prompt:

racadm set System.ThermalSettings.ThirdPartyPCIFanResponse 0

I hope this helps.

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September 28th, 2016 23:00

Somehow MFSmin limit is allways 85%, never changes to lower, it only can go higher. I guess my server doesn't like Intel P3500 ssd

/admin1-> racadm get System.ThermalSettings
[Key=System.Embedded.1#ThermalSettings.1]
#FanSpeedHighOffsetVal=55
#FanSpeedLowOffsetVal=35
#FanSpeedMaxOffsetVal=100
#FanSpeedMediumOffsetVal=50
FanSpeedOffset=Low Fan Speed
#MFSMaximumLimit=100
#MFSMinimumLimit=85
MinimumFanSpeed=255
ThermalProfile=Minimum Power
ThirdPartyPCIFanResponse=Disabled

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September 30th, 2016 00:00

I noticed one more thing. When I disable third party PCI fan response fan speed becomes 4200rmp, but when I enable it fan speed doesn't return to 10080rmp, reading stays at 4200rmp. Min fan value still 85%.

63 Posts

September 30th, 2016 06:00

Your Idrac still seems to think it's set to 'Low Fan offset'.

Can you try to set it to 'Off'? That should at least take it 15% lower.

You have to go to the BIOS for that.

i think 3rd party set to disabled is the way to go.

Also, does the strange behaviour happen even if you turn the server completly off and the back on?

Lastly, there could be some miscommunication between the iDRAC and the system.

Have you checked if your iDRAC is properly seated?

I wonder if things would be different for you in another PCI-E slot.

Note that that I am using an iDRAC 8 'enterprise'.

Good Luck,

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September 30th, 2016 09:00

Idrac card is seated properly. This thing only happens when I am using intel p3500 ssd. With intel 750 no problems, but these ssds are for other server. Turing off and draining power did not help.

34 Posts

October 4th, 2016 03:00

So did you figure out whats is wrong with my server from posted data?

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October 4th, 2016 23:00

Thank you for links, but I already tried these commands. Fan stays 85% of max all the time.

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