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Has anyone used Acronis True Image 8.0 to make clone of factory fresh hard drive?
It looks like this might actually work to clone the drive as it came from the factory and to restore it back to that setting if I repartition the drive and lose the hidden restore and diagnostic partitions on it.
I may try it out but thought I'd ask here first in case any one has tried it.
bacillus
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March 31st, 2005 04:00
mandatory
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March 31st, 2005 10:00
I do it all the time with TrueImage 8. I couldn't get Ghost to work for me. I use an external USB2 hard drive to store my images.
You can boot either on the TrueImage 8 CD or on your internal drive and then create the image of your drive and store it on the external drive or cd's, dvd's, etc. Whenever you want to, you can restore the image to your internal drive and the hidden partitions will actually work just like when you got the computer. All partitions can be copied and restored.
You must create the image before you change your hard drive (while the hidden partitions still work).
Simmerheli
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March 31st, 2005 13:00
Mandatory...
Would you know if True Image 8.0 supports live backups, meaning it creates an image while the OS (XP Home in my situation) is running and dosn't need to reboot into DOS to make the image?
Thanks
-Mike
mandatory
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March 31st, 2005 16:00
Simmerheli
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March 31st, 2005 17:00
Thanks again Mandatory.
One more question and then I'll leave you alone. :smileyhappy:
What destination interfaces and media does True Image 8.0 support? Meaning can it create the image on an exteral USB 2.0 harddrive, internal optical drive, etc.?
Thanks
-Mike
Sequoia7
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March 31st, 2005 17:00
I'm verifying my drive image on cds right now. It was a rather easy process to image teh whole drive and took 9 cds at high compression.
Btw - I downloaded True Image last night from Tucows for a bit cheaper than the manufacturer's site.
Simmerheli
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March 31st, 2005 17:00
Ok, I just answered my own question.
On Acronis' site it mentions all of the drive types supported. It says it does support optical (both CD and DVD), USB 1 and 2, 1394, etc.
Nice!
-Mike
Simmerheli
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April 1st, 2005 01:00
OK, one more question.
does True Image really create a true "image" of the drive?
Meaning, is the image file-based or is it sector-based?
Thanks
-Mike
mandatory
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April 1st, 2005 01:00
Message Edited by mandatory on 03-31-2005 09:35 PM
JersWork
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April 1st, 2005 18:00
I understand what you are asking, but I'm not sure if the answer will tellyou what you want to know.
True image will backup a drive (or partition) into an image file. I have made a drive imae using TI8, and then replaced my internal HD and restored the image onto the new drive and as far as my system was concerned, nothing had changed except that the C: drive now had an additional 20GB of free space because I restored a 60GB image onto an 80GB drive (and specified to enlarge the partition).
Since TI8 allows you to create incremental backups, I do not think that it does a sector based backup, but rather it does a file basd backup. From looking at the help PDF file for TI Server 8, Here is some info I see:
Acronis True Image Server 8.0 for Windowsstores only those hard disk parts that contain data (for supported partition types). This reduces image size and speeds up image creation and restoration from.
A partition image includes all files and folders independently of their attributes (including hidden and system files), boot record, FAT, and Root.
A disk image includes images of all disk partitions as well as the zero track with Master Boot Record (MBR).
TI8 does allow you a "Clone Drive" option which makes a copy of one drive onto another, but I have not used that functionality myself.
dg1261
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April 1st, 2005 23:00
JersWork, I share your skepticism about TrueImage making sector-based images. I suspect it's really file-based. There's one way to tell for sure, so maybe some of you people who own TI can run an experiment for the rest of us: start with a partition that has fragmented files, then image it, then restore it, and finally compare the level of fragmentation of the restored partition to the original. Sector-based imagers will preserve the fragmentation, while file-based imagers should naturally defrag the partition as part of the process.
Simmerheli
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April 3rd, 2005 13:00
JersWork and dg1261:
You took the words right out of my mouth. :smileyhappy:
It appears that TrueImage is really file-based (which really isn't a true image if we want to get technical about it).
This can be good or bad, depending on what one's needs are. For testing purposes this may be bad since a restore will LOOSE all fragmentation, metadata and attributes. For general use, this may be OK, since most folk's intent is to be able to restore a "baseline" in case of a system crash, virus or HD upgrade.
But to call it "True Image" is rather misleading.
I also agree that the trial version is rather crippling, since it only creates basically a WOM (write-only-memory) file. :smileyindifferent:
For my needs, however, I need an app that can create a compressed file of a baselined HD and then, in the case of an upgrade, virus, etc. I can restore from that file and have the system back to THAT EXACT baseline state (independant of fragmentation). Can True Image do this for me?
Without having to experiment with my hard-earned currency, in my humble opinion, I feel that a time-trial is better then a cripple-ware one.
Anyway, it appears that "True Image"???? may do what I need it to do, which is to backup a baselined HD, and then in the case of a virus, HD upgrade, etc. can restore that backup and be back to my baseline... Is my thinking correct or am I still missing something? :smileyhappy:
Thanks
-Mike
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April 3rd, 2005 17:00
True image worked for me.
However Digial Dolly is Free for home users.
http://www.innotrix.com/index.htm
I think named after the sheep that got cloned called Dolly.
dg1261
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April 3rd, 2005 20:00
Simmerheli
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April 3rd, 2005 21:00
Ok, here is a description from the Aconis site:
Acronis True Image software "sees" a hard drive as a group of sectors — that
is, the physical divisions of the disk. Using imaging technology, Acronis True Image
creates an exact duplicate of the live workstation hard disk, including operating
system, all configuration files, programs, updates and databases. Contrast that
with conventional backup programs, which look at drives as groups of files. Filebased
backups are incomplete since they are unable to capture open Windows
files, hidden files, some system files and data that changes during the backup
process. Acronis True Image not only creates an exact image of the hard disk, but
it tracks changes that occur during the imaging process so that the final image is
exactly like the disk. It's safer and faster to restore disk drives using Acronis, and
the software itself ensures that images are perfect duplicates to guarantee consistency.