HS_54
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Re: XPS 435MT SSD

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OK I will try as you state and like you say, if it does not work try it again but setting the RAID first.

The reason for me asking, is that I read in another thread, that if you set your RAID after the os, you could corrupt it or loose it.

I do like your thinking specially with so much other information that can very easily make one go crazy.

Have a great week and many thanks.

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This is pretty close the method I used as I made the changes to Bios with an already installed OS - just as you will be doing after a clean install - so you shouldn't have any corruption issues.  Keep in mind that you just enable RAID - you don't actually assign any drives to a Raid array.  The corruption could happen if you assign multiple drives to a Raid array then make changes.  (I think.)

Lots of misinformation out there - it is very confusing.  Skepticism while reading the forums is well justified - maybe even a little cynicism.  🙂

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gtitievsky
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HB2:

   I have the following question:

I have a Dell Studio XPS 435MT with the following storage hardware inside: 64GB SSD, 640GB HD, Blu-Ray RW, all on SATA. Recently I rebuilt the system and tried running it in RAID mode. That caused a lot of instability, apparently related to the Intel RST drivers. Hence I switched back to IDE mode (and yes, TRIM is still enabled) and re-installed windows. All is stable, but I feel that in RAID, the SSD was faster, probably due to Native Command Queuing. I see it from your post that you added a PCI-E card to your system to run the SSD off. Could you please let me know the following:

1. Do you use the card to boot from the SSD connected to the card? How did you enable it via Dell BIOS?

2. What is the make and model of the PCI-E card?

Thanks,

Greg

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8 Krypton

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Hi, Greg:

I didn't add a PCI-E card - that was my "plan B" that I never had to utilize.

I'm running with the RAID enabled but with no drives assigned to a RAID array and I haven't had any instability.  Did you download the Intel program and do the Microsoft Fix noted in this forum?  If not, that might have caused the instability.

Sorry I can't help with the PCI-E card.

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gtitievsky
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I only used the Intel drivers, never ran the MS Fix it since I was doing a fresh install of windows. The windows would get installed, but then I would experience intermittent freezes. The drives would show up as SCSI drives.

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8 Krypton

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My  SSD drive is larger than yours - 240 gb.  That looks like the only significant difference in our systems.

You might want to try again - following all the steps including the Intel download and the Microsoft fix.  Make sure you do each step in the order that's outlined in the forum.  If that doesn't work you can purchase a card.

I haven't had any problems since my install, so your problem must either be something specific to your system or it may be that you need to follow all the steps.

Good luck!

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I ran speed test on my Kingston Sata 3 drive connected to a sata 3 PCIe card. The speed test shows that theft read speeds are around 190 MB/s. I am trying to get closer to the advertised 600 MB a second. For those that got it working. Did you run speed test on the drive? Just because it works does not mean it is running at the correct speed.

My plan is to use this drive as a Windows 8 and documents drive. Should I make two partitions on the SSD? I currently have Windows 7 on my 3.5 inch drive. Should I run all these fixes on that drive? I read that people encounter an error when they try and install a new operating system. If this is the case, then how do they fresh install Windows 8

Do I just do the install on the 3.5 inch drive and run the fixes then transfer to the SSD? Can someone link to the exact Intel matrix controller that we should download? I searched on the on the website and there seem to be several. The ones that said they were compatible with my OS still give me a incompatible OS error.

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RE: XPS 435MT SSD

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HB2: Are most/all of these instructions still valid? I recently posted a similar question to this forum. I'm replying to your post here in the hopes that you see it and have a moment to respond and/or comment on my similar question. Thanks!

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Hi

Yes the instructions should work as posted - please note that it is important to follow all the directions in the order as recommended.

I later did a clean install of windows 7.1 - originally I cloned.  Cloning worked but the clean install cured a few glitches I had.  I actuallly didn't have a choice - I tried to go back using a reset and somehow clobbered my operating system.  The clean install of windows 7.1 fixed that.

I'm still using the same system with SSD.  It works well - but you will never get the optimum speed of the SSD because the motherboard only goes up to sata II.  The advertised speed assumes sata III.  Still - that's a huge improvement.

I'm moving on over the next two weeks - waiting for the delivery of my new case, motherboard, cpu, and m.2 SSD. A new motherboard is really the only way to fully overcome the sata and other limits.

That said - I'm only building a new PC for the joy of it - my current system does everything I ask of it.

Feel free to ask for clarification on the instructions - it's been a while but I'll try to remember any additional details.  I owe a lot to others in the forum that helped me through the install of the SSD.

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Thanks! Glad to hear things are still working for you.

Do you attribute the glitches to something with the migration? Anything I should be on the lookout for?

Windows 7.1 = Windows 7 SP1?

Yes, I'm aware that most systems (including the 435MT) won't be able to take advantage of SATA III devices. Still, it's my understanding that my system should see a dramatic performance increase.

The original link I provided to my forum post was corrupt; I have corrected it. Appreciate any comments on my drive bay situation as well as Crucial's tech support questioning the need for the Intel Matrix Storage Manager Driver. Sorry for splitting this conversation into a separate thread; I wasn't sure anyone from the original thread was still active on the forum.

May I ask what SSD brands you recommend? With this system, is a Samsung EVO overkill compared to (say) a Crucial MX100 or M500?

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