Muraleedaran
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SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Dears

Would appreciate if somebody could answer the below queries

In our environment we have the AX4 5i   and  it is connected to a  Hyper-V cluster (2 Windows 2008 nodes) running  Exchange ,SQL and Sharepoint VM's We are installing the VNX 5100 with the intention of  migrating the old data from AX4 to VNX  But the problem is  that I cannot perform the online method due to

- No licenses were purchased for Unisphere Manager and SAN Copy for AX4

- No free space on AX4 to create the RLP on AX4

Again on Pull Method

-  The Duration taken was almost 3- 4 days whereas which the duration exceed the planned downtime.

Hence can anybody advice whether we could opt for a Host based Migration Technique and if so what are the licenses options involved?

Regards

Muralee

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dynamox
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

PowerPath Migration Enabler (using PowePath 5.7SP1 which allows for online migration of clusters). If you are running a licensed version of PowerPath, PPME license is free of charge.

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Roger_Wu
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

You're using Hyper-V, have you tried its Live Migration? It should be designed to have no downtime.

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dynamox
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Hyper-V 3.0 (Windows 2012 server not in Windows 2008)

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Muraleedaran
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Dear All

Thanks for the reply.

Dear Roger

If I am planning to use Hyper-V based live migration on this cluster can you elaborate the steps I should follow

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Roger_Wu
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Well, dynamox is right, the Hyper-V on Windows 2008 does not support Live Storage Migration, a new Hyper-V 3.0 feature. But it still support Quick Storage Migration, althought it has several minutes downtime.

System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2 - Quick Storage Migration - Windows Virtualization Tea...

Storage Migration Type

Platforms available on

Technology used for transfer

Expected downtime

Storage vMotion

  • ESX 3.5
  • Storage vMotion
None
  • No perceived service interruption while the virtual disks associated with a virtual machine are moved from storage location to another

Quick Storage Migration

  • Hyper-V
    (2008 R2)
  • BITS and Hyper-V
Under 1 minute in most cases (W2K8 R2) 
  • VM can remain running for the almost the entire duration of the transfer of its virtual disks from once storage location to another 
  • VM is put into save-state for a brief interval to migrate its memory state and associated differencing disks.

But QSM is only available on System Center Virtual Machine Manager (SCVMM) . You may also refer to the above link for the details.

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dynamox
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

are you using PowerPath ? If yes upgrade to 5.7SP1 and use PowerPath Migration Enabler to migrate everything online.

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Muraleedaran
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Dear Dynamox

Yes I am using the Powerpath for AX4

OR

Can I do the following

- Present the new LUN's to the cluster servers

- Copy the data from old lun's to new luns' from windows explorer.

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dynamox
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Re: SAN Copy Alternative for Hyper-V Cluster

Muraleedaran wrote:

Can I do the following

- Present the new LUN's to the cluster servers

- Copy the data from old lun's to new luns' from windows explorer.

not with VMs running you can't. If your PowerPath is licensed, you are eligible for the free license for PPME (PowerPath Migration Enabler). One caviat to migrating MCSC clusters without downtime is you have to run PowerPath 5.7SP1.

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