joe53
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

Thanks Ron and Bb for your thoughts.

Learning a new OS is always daunting, but I'm not likely to switch from Windows with my next system and break a 20 year habit. I'll likely keep my work-related and financial stuff on Windows 7/sp1 in the near future, as I'm more comfortable at present with its privacy settings. And I don't really need voice dictation, cameras and microphones, and synching with "other devices" in my work (apart from a scanner and printer).

I will likely learn Windows 10 on a system reserved for personal use/entertainment, where privacy is not so important. I don't really care if MS knows my surfing habits, which news or ebooks I read, or which movies I view from Netflix. As long as I don't get personalized ads or spam. I 'm not much of a gamer, but if Win 10 doesn't include a version of FreeCell that is as quick as the XP version (which I had to migrate to Win 7, to replace its clunky/slow version), it could be a deal-breaker. :emotion-5:

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RoHe
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

Win 10 has XP-compatibility mode, so if you can install the XP version of FreeCell, you should be good to go. :emotion-2:

Even after turning off all the available security/privacy options in Win 10, it still phones home with who-knows-what info, as a number of tech sites have reported. 

I also keep work and financial stuff on a Win 7 desktop with no intentions of moving any of that to the Win 10 lappy.

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Bugbatter
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

Even after turning off all the available security/privacy options in Win 10, it still phones home with who-knows-what info, as a number of tech sites have reported. 

That's interesting, Ron. Which sites have reported that?


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ky331
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

Win 10 has XP-compatibility mode...

That's fascinating... I wonder how they keep THAT secure?!? --- particularly if it includes IE8.

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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

I posted this in this forum a while back:

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can’t stop talking to Microsoft

Win 10 has XP-compatibility mode...

That only means Win 10 can run old XP (and Vista) -compatible software. I doubt you could install IE8 into Win 10, even in compatibility mode, given how closely IE and the OS are tied together. So that's probably not an issue.

Besides, who would want to use IE8 (or IE9) with Win 10, when IE11, Edge, Firefox etc are all supposed to be so much more secure?

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ky331
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

Ron,

The phrase "Windows XP Mode" referred to an option, available on Win7 Professional, to include an embedded WinXP Virtual Machine http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/8247-windows-xp-mode-install-setup.html

That VM --- running as a complete WinXP desktop --- included IE8.

And that's what I thought you were referring to.  

Now I see you're just saying Win10 can run (some) older programs in XP compatibility mode.  

Sorry about the confusion.

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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

I posted this in this forum a while back:

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can’t stop talking to Microsoft


 I've hidden web search from Start, so I don't use it. I'd suggest others do that too, if they are concerned about using Bing. For the super-paranoid, I would suggest that they use a browser and search engine that are more private.

Ed Bott commented back in August: http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-microsoft-is-not-spying-on-you-with-windows-10/

Microsoft has a response that was updated this month: http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/09/28/privacy-and-windows-10/


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speedstep
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

I care because the windows 10 update was like a drive by install.

Windows 10 has a number of "troubling" features like Peer to Peer windows updates to COMPUTERS ON THE INTERNET. 
Built in Keylogger "to better enhance your search experience".

"Sample Submission" of files on your drive sent to microsoft.

Lots of other "cant turn off or remove" 
"Features"

Does Windows 10 really have a keylogger in it? Yes.

So that "Bank card numbers,website credentials and other search experiences can be enhanced."

The license agreement even mentions this specifically: “we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features.”

Microsoft can theoretically see everything you type in the Windows 10.

Even if they aren't spying now hackers could figure out how to compromise this and get data from your machine.

“Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks. Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage.”

"Sensor Data" aka we take pictures of you and listen to your microphone. purely for speech process improvement."

“We may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility” and “use voice input features like speech-to-text, we may collect voice information and use it for purposes such as improving speech processing.” collecting your voice, video, your chats etc."

 “If you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use [of]it for purposes such as improving performance, or [if you]enter text, we may collect typed characters, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spell check features.”

The above said input recording methods are a classic keylogger malware features.

 

 


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Bugbatter
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RE: Win 7 update KB3035583

It takes only a few minutes to review settings and simply opt out as you would from a similar Customer Experience Improvement Program in Windows 7/8, or an OEM program such as Dell Experience Improvement Program.


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