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Vostro-460

XPS-8300

i7-2600, 3.40 GHz

BIOS A6

16 GB of RAM 1333MHz – DDR3 (corsair)

500GB Samsung SSD EVO 860

Windows 10

Samsung SyncMaster – using DVI port and Analog VGA port

ASUS Phoenix Nvidia Geforce GTX 1650 – 4GB DDR5

 

Hello:

I was able to install a Nvidia GTX 1650 graphics card on a Dell Vostro 460.  It is operating flawlessly (almost).

In the BIOS menu under “Advanced – Graphics Configuration – Intel Multiple Monitor Feature” there are 2 settings available 1) Disabled & 2) Auto.  I previously had a Nvidia Quadro 600 installed, and the BIOS was set to Disabled.  The disabled setting allows either the on-board video to display or the installed graphics card to display – only one of the two can display.  Auto allows both the on-board video and the installed graphics card to display at the same time.

In order to get the card installed, I first changed that BIOS setting to Auto.  There is an old VGA port on the back of the mini-tower that the on-board video displays to.  I plugged one end of a VGA cable into that port and the other end into the Analog port on my “old” monitor.

I installed the GTX 1650 card into the PCI x16 slot on the MB and turned on the computer.  On the first startup the on-board video displayed through the VGA cable to the Analog port on the monitor.  Windows 10 started up and after going into the Device Manager (windows-key-X).  The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 appeared under the list of Display adapters after “Intel ® HD Graphics”.  I downloaded the latest driver from the Nvidia website and installed it.

Then I shut down the PC and turned it on again.  The Dell splash screen showed (via the VGA cable) and as soon as Windows 10 started both the on-board video and the video card video broadcasted to the monitor.  The Windows 10 login page appeared on both outputs.

I shut down the PC again, and then unplugged the VGA cable from the on-board VGA port on the back of the mini-tower.  At that point the BIOS only detected the on-board video card.  The card broadcasted to the monitor, but the startup only got to the Vostro splash page and it froze.  The MB beeped every 10 seconds and after about 6 tries it stopped broadcasting through the video card.  PROBLEM!

I knew the video card was installed properly, the driver was installed properly, and in Windows 10 everything was working fine.  I suspect that the BIOS does not like the video card because there is an issue with Legacy support.  I also did not want to leave the VGA cable plugged into my monitor, because then Windows spans the 2 monitors and that would have been awkward with just a single monitor. 

So I decided to trick my old Vostro.  I plugged one end of the VGA cable into the on-board VGA port on the back of the mini tower and plugged the other end into nothing.  It just dangles behind the PC.  I turned on the power and successfully got to the Windows 10 login page broadcasting from the video card to the DVI port on the monitor.  The Vostro can detect that there is a VGA cable plugged into the port, but it can’t detect whether there’s a monitor on the other end.  I suspect that since the BIOS could “detect” a VGA cable connected to the on-board video, it was OK with proceeding past the BIOS splash page and launching windows.  It simply ignored the video card Legacy issue.

Once Windows 10 starts it detects the video card and broadcasts to DVI.  Windows 10 doesn’t even try to broadcast using the on-board VGA.

Here’s the only flaw to this configuration.  The Vostro splash page is only broadcasted to the on-board VGA so in my configuration I see nothing until the Windows login page appears.  The only time this would be an issue is if I need to change the BIOS, which is virtually never.  And if I do I’d just have to plug the VGA cable into the monitor.

So now I have an old computer that starts up in under 5 seconds and works great for everyday computing and light gaming.  I just wanted to post this article to let anyone else with a Vostro 460 know that it is possible to install an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650.  It’s not very difficult.

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GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB D6 Windforce OC Graphics Card is fine.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1656WF2OC-4GD-rev-10/support#support-dl

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13vY67_sXbg

Bios does need updating 

Dell XPS 8300 and Vostro 460 System BIOS

https://dl.dell.com/bios/TR-A06_QS.EXE

View full driver details

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/vostro-460/drivers

 

 

 


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Hi,
I've been looking to do the same thing with my dell vostro 460 (which has the same specs as yours). I bought a radeon rx 550 card which failed to boot up windows (which I later found out from various forums that RX cards don't support legacy motherboards like the one on the vostro 460) so returned it.

I then found your post from just earlier this year which has been really helpful. Can I ask if you've had any issues since installing the card? There seems to be a few different models of the GTX 1650 but do you know if this one https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/graphics-cards/gigabyte-gefo... is the same? It looks the same spec and the size will fit inside the case no problem. I'm fine with the workaround of using the old vga lead via the onboard graphics , so that's not a problem for me if it means getting a decent card working.

Are you aware of any other cards that might work? I've spend quite some time googling this problem so any advice greatly received.

Thanks,
Neville

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GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB D6 Windforce OC Graphics Card is fine.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1656WF2OC-4GD-rev-10/support#support-dl

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13vY67_sXbg

Bios does need updating 

Dell XPS 8300 and Vostro 460 System BIOS

https://dl.dell.com/bios/TR-A06_QS.EXE

View full driver details

https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/vostro-460/drivers

 

 

 


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Hello Speedstep:

Thank you for the reply and I liked your video! 

FYI the PC featured in your video is a Dell Vostro 470.  It is a slightly newer version than the Vostro 460 that I posted my solution for.  My understanding is that the Vostro 470 already has BIOS support for newer video cards.  It doesn't surprise me that you were able to update your BIOS and get the card to work directly (after some Win 10 updates).

The 460 is the last Vostro to only support legacy video cards.  The GTX 1650 is not a legacy card and the BIOS will not clear when the GTX 1650 is installed.  It gets stuck on the splash page just like you showed in your video.  Unfortunately the A06 BIOS upgrade for the Vostro 460 doesn't support the newer cards.  It will still hang on the splash page with the latest BIOS upgrade.

However, if you follow my VGA cord trick above you can fool the BIOS into letting you get past the splash screen using the integrated VGA graphics.  Once Windows 10 fires up, it has no trouble recognizing the GTX 1650.

I've noticed the same performance out of the GTX 1650 that you showed in your video.  I love giving an old $200 computer new life.  It still runs great!

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Hello Npalmer2020:

Thanks for the reply and I'm glad my post was helpful! I love giving old PCs new life!

I have only installed a Nvida GTX1650 in my Vostro 460.  However I think if you had a heftier power supply you could install any card you want in a Vostro 460.  The reason I picked the GTX 1650 is that it was the most powerful current card that will work with the original power supply.  It pulls all the power it needs from the PCI slot, no extra power is needed.

You just have to do the VGA cord trick.  One thing I will mention is that not all VGA cords are created equal.  I tried the trick with a different VGA cord and it didn't work! I do know that a geniune Hotron (E246588) Black AWM Style 20276 4' VGA Male/Male Monitor Cable will work.  I had to order one off of EBay to make this trick work on a second Vostro 460.  Yes, after I got this to work on my original Vostro I bought a second Vostro and now have 2 Vostros running both with Nvidia GTX 1650s.  FYI I have a third one on the way!

Cheers!

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Many thanks for the reply and advice, especially the tip about the vga cord - much appreciated. I'll give it a go and hopefully be able to post up if it's a success or not!

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Awesome Npalmer!

I hope it works for you too.  I love 2 things:

1. Saving money.

2. Bringing new life too old PCs!

Good Luck!

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