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October 30th, 2008 13:00

Classic Views and Actions

With XP we had the option of going with the classic view, which is what I learned with and still desire to use. When I got an XPS-420 with Vista very little is the same. With My Computer and My Documents it was so easy to find and do things. With them gone it is a pain to get anything done. Some simple tasks like selectively deleting cookies has turned into a time consuming task.

 

I bought the XPS because I thought the 8400 with XP I am now writing on was about to expire..."Previous Fan Failure" error messages on boot up. But its been almost 6 months and the thing still works, and I will continue to use it until its last gasp. As a result about all I do with the Vista machine is update the security programs. Is there a solution to all this...like a "classic" configuration, or will I have to wait until a new OS comes out. I have heard somewhere that another one is coming along. I hope it is more of an improvement...meaning simplicity and ease of use...than Vista has proved to be. But I am not counting on it. We will probably end up with yet more bloat and useless features and far more complexity.  :smileysad:

 

 

Message Edited by dalem29 on 10-30-2008 08:42 AM

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October 30th, 2008 17:00

You can make it look almost exactly like XP in the settings. Only thing I want that Vista doesn't have is an up button to go up a folder! It's definitely much more annoying to just try to navigate folders without it.

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October 30th, 2008 17:00

"Vista doesn't have is an up button to go up a folder!"

 

Use alt + Up arrow to do that.

 

 

". Some simple tasks like selectively deleting cookies has turned into a time consuming task."

 

I use this program, it does not install anything on your system, just run the program from a folder you create.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/iecookies.html

 

"Is there a solution to all this...like a "classic" configuration,"

 

Somewhat, you can change the start menu to classic, right click on the start icon (lower left corner) and select properties, on the Start Menu tab select "classic start menu", you can also customize it, after making changes be sure to hit OK all the way out.

 

For folders, go to control panel "folder options" General Tab, tick "use windows classic folders" hit OK

 

Then if you want the classic theme for the look and feel, go to Control Panel>Personalization>Window color and appearance>Open classic appearance properties for more color options> then select Windows Classic as the theme. Hit OK

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October 30th, 2008 18:00

Thanks for the tips...I'll check them out. :smileywink:

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October 30th, 2008 19:00

Cool, I'll have to remember Alt Up Arrow.

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October 30th, 2008 20:00

here are some more Vista keyboard shortcuts

 

 

Logo+Tab          Vista Aero scroll, tapping tab scrolls while holding logo. Let up to select
ALT+Tab          Vista windows show all windows, tapping tab scrolls while holding Alt. Let up to select
Ctrl+Alt+Tab    Vista show all windows, then use tab only to scroll, enter to select, better for alot of open windows.
Ctrl+Logo+Tab  Vista Aero, then use tab only to scroll windows, enter to select, better for alot of open windows.
Ctrl+Shift+Esc    Task manager
Ctrl+Alt+Del (twice)  Brings up nice interface with "Lock this Computer", "Switch User"  "Log Off"  "Change PAssword"  "Start Task Manager"  "Cancel" "Restart" "Sleep" "Shutdown" and "Hibernate" if enabled
Ctrl/+ (ten key)  will size all colums to fit in windows explorer, focus must be in the right hand pane for it to work.

 

 

Here are the old one's from XP, most should work in Vista

 

General keyboard shortcuts

CTRL+ESC, press U, press R, and then press ENTER.  Restarts the PC when you have no video.

• CTRL+C (Copy)
• CTRL+X (Cut)
• CTRL+V (Paste)
• CTRL+Z (Undo)
• DELETE (Delete)  Duh!
• SHIFT+DELETE (Delete the selected item permanently without placing the item in the Recycle Bin) 
• CTRL while dragging an item (Copy the selected item) 
• CTRL+SHIFT while dragging an item (Create a shortcut to the selected item)
• F2 key (Rename the selected item)
• CTRL+RIGHT ARROW (Move the insertion point to the beginning of the next word) 
• CTRL+LEFT ARROW (Move the insertion point to the beginning of the previous word) 
• CTRL+DOWN ARROW (Move the insertion point to the beginning of the next paragraph) 
• CTRL+UP ARROW (Move the insertion point to the beginning of the previous paragraph) 
• CTRL+SHIFT with any of the arrow keys (Highlight a block of text) 
• SHIFT with any of the arrow keys (Select more than one item in a window or on the desktop, or select text in a document) 
• CTRL+A (Select all) 
• F3 key (Search for a file or a folder) 
• ALT+ENTER (View the properties for the selected item) 
• ALT+F4 (Close the active item, or quit the active program) 
• ALT+ENTER (Display the properties of the selected object) 
• ALT+SPACEBAR (Open the shortcut menu for the active window) 
• CTRL+F4 (Close the active document in programs that enable you to have multiple documents open simultaneously) 
• ALT+TAB (Switch between the open items) 
• ALT+ESC (Cycle through items in the order that they had been opened) 
• F6 key (Cycle through the screen elements in a window or on the desktop) 
• F4 key (Display the Address bar list in My Computer or Windows Explorer) 
• SHIFT+F10 (Display the shortcut menu for the selected item) 
• ALT+SPACEBAR (Display the System menu for the active window) 
• CTRL+ESC (Display the Start menu) 
• ALT+Underlined letter in a menu name (Display the corresponding menu)
• Underlined letter in a command name on an open menu (Perform the corresponding command)
• F10 key (Activate the menu bar in the active program)
• RIGHT ARROW (Open the next menu to the right, or open a submenu)
• LEFT ARROW (Open the next menu to the left, or close a submenu)
• F5 key (Update the active window)
• BACKSPACE (View the folder one level up in My Computer or Windows Explorer) 
• ESC (Cancel the current task)
• SHIFT when you insert a CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive (Prevent the CD-ROM from automatically playing)
• CTRL+SHIFT+ESC (Open Task Manager)

 

Dialog box keyboard shortcuts

If you press SHIFT+F8 in extended selection list boxes, you enable extended selection mode. In this mode, you can use an arrow key to move a cursor without changing the selection. You can press CTRL+SPACEBAR or SHIFT+SPACEBAR to adjust the selection. To cancel extended selection mode, press SHIFT+F8 again. Extended selection mode cancels itself when you move the focus to another control.• CTRL+TAB (Move forward through the tabs)
• CTRL+SHIFT+TAB (Move backward through the tabs)
• TAB (Move forward through the options)
• SHIFT+TAB (Move backward through the options)
• ALT+Underlined letter (Perform the corresponding command or select the corresponding option)
• ENTER (Perform the command for the active option or button)
• SPACEBAR (Select or clear the check box if the active option is a check box)
• Arrow keys (Select a button if the active option is a group of option buttons)
• F1 key (Display Help)
• F4 key (Display the items in the active list)
• BACKSPACE (Open a folder one level up if a folder is selected in the Save As or Open dialog box) 

 

Microsoft natural keyboard shortcuts
• Windows Logo (Display or hide the Start menu)
• Windows Logo+BREAK (Display the System Properties dialog box)
• Windows Logo+D (Display the desktop)
• Windows Logo+M (Minimize all of the windows)
• Windows Logo+SHIFT+M (Restore the minimized windows)
• Windows Logo+E (Open My Computer)
• Windows Logo+F (Search for a file or a folder)
• Windows Logo+F+Ctrl (Search for computers)
• Windows Logo+F1 (Display Windows Help)
• Windows Logo+ L (Lock the keyboard)
• Windows Logo+R (Open the Run dialog box)
• Windows Logo+U (Open Utility Manager)
• Flag then U then S    will susoend the PC
• Flag then U then H  will hibernate the PC

 


Accessibility keyboard shortcuts
• Right SHIFT for eight seconds (Switch FilterKeys either on or off)
• Left ALT+left SHIFT+PRINT SCREEN (Switch High Contrast either on or off)
• Left ALT+left SHIFT+NUM LOCK (Switch the MouseKeys either on or off)
• SHIFT five times (Switch the StickyKeys either on or off)
• NUM LOCK for five seconds (Switch the ToggleKeys either on or off)
• Windows Logo +U (Open Utility Manager)

 

Windows Explorer keyboard shortcuts
• END (Display the bottom of the active window)
• HOME (Display the top of the active window)
• NUM LOCK+Asterisk sign (*) (Display all of the subfolders that are under the selected folder)
• NUM LOCK+Plus sign (+) (Display the contents of the selected folder)
• NUM LOCK+Minus sign (-) (Collapse the selected folder)
• LEFT ARROW (Collapse the current selection if it is expanded, or select the parent folder)
• RIGHT ARROW (Display the current selection if it is collapsed, or select the first subfolder)

 

Shortcut keys for Character Map
After you double-click a character on the grid of characters, you can move through the grid by using the keyboard shortcuts: • RIGHT ARROW (Move to the right or to the beginning of the next line)
• LEFT ARROW (Move to the left or to the end of the previous line) 
• UP ARROW (Move up one row)
• DOWN ARROW (Move down one row)
• PAGE UP (Move up one screen at a time)
• PAGE DOWN (Move down one screen at a time)
• HOME (Move to the beginning of the line)
• END (Move to the end of the line)
• CTRL+HOME (Move to the first character)
• CTRL+END (Move to the last character)
• SPACEBAR (Switch between Enlarged and Normal mode when a character is selected)

 

Microsoft Management Console (MMC) main window keyboard shortcuts
• CTRL+O (Open a saved console)
• CTRL+N (Open a new console)
• CTRL+S (Save the open console)
• CTRL+M (Add or remove a console item)
• CTRL+W (Open a new window)
• F5 key (Update the content of all console windows)
• ALT+SPACEBAR (Display the MMC window menu)
• ALT+F4 (Close the console)
• ALT+A (Display the Action menu)
• ALT+V (Display the View menu)
• ALT+F (Display the File menu)
• ALT+O (Display the Favorites menu)

 

MMC console window keyboard shortcuts
• CTRL+P (Print the current page or active pane)
• ALT+Minus sign (-) (Display the window menu for the active console window)
• SHIFT+F10 (Display the Action shortcut menu for the selected item)
• F1 key (Open the Help topic, if any, for the selected item)
• F5 key (Update the content of all console windows)
• CTRL+F10 (Maximize the active console window)
• CTRL+F5 (Restore the active console window)
• ALT+ENTER (Display the Properties dialog box, if any, for the selected item)
• F2 key (Rename the selected item)
• CTRL+F4 (Close the active console window. When a console has only one console window, this shortcut closes the console)

 

Remote desktop connection navigation
• CTRL+ALT+END (Open the Microsoft Windows NT Security dialog box)
• ALT+PAGE UP (Switch between programs from left to right)
• ALT+PAGE DOWN (Switch between programs from right to left)
• ALT+INSERT (Cycle through the programs in most recently used order)
• ALT+HOME (Display the Start menu)
• CTRL+ALT+BREAK (Switch the client computer between a window and a full screen)
• ALT+DELETE (Display the Windows menu)
• CTRL+ALT+Minus sign (-) (Place a snapshot of the entire client window area on the Terminal server clipboard and provide the same functionality as pressing ALT+PRINT SCREEN on a local computer.)
• CTRL+ALT+Plus sign (+) (Place a snapshot of the active window in the client on the Terminal server clipboard and provide the same functionality as pressing PRINT SCREEN on a local computer.)

 

Microsoft Internet Explorer navigation
• CTRL+B (Open the Organize Favorites dialog box)
• CTRL+E (Open the Search bar)
• CTRL+F (Start the Find utility)
• CTRL+H (Open the History bar)
• CTRL+I (Open the Favorites bar)
• CTRL+L (Open the Open dialog box)
• CTRL+N (Start another instance of the browser with the same Web address)
• CTRL+O (Open the Open dialog box, the same as CTRL+L)
• CTRL+P (Open the Print dialog box)
• CTRL+R (Update the current Web page)
• CTRL+W (Close the current window)

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October 30th, 2008 20:00

Uber, thanks.

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October 31st, 2008 02:00


@Noxo wrote:
You can make it look almost exactly like XP in the settings. Only thing I want that Vista doesn't have is an up button to go up a folder! It's definitely much more annoying to just try to navigate folders without it.
With Vista when you are using explorer ( not internet explorer ) the folder almost looks like a web browser.  You have your Back and Forward arrows keys.  You have the toolbar which shows the current folder you are in.   You can click the Back arrow button or you can click the folder names and go back.  There are also chevrons you can click to see all the sub folders.  To the right of the tool bar is the search function.  So lets say you have a folder full of stuff but you only want to see the JPG files.  You can do a wildcard search and put *.jpg in the search toolbar.  If you want to see File / Edit / View / Tools / Help press the F10 key.

 

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