CALLMENUJAK
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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[quote user="CALLMENUJAK"]Let the OP decide what he/she wants to do. I for one will not buy another licence unnecessarily.

Sure, no one is forcing him to do one thing over another, but not doing so is a illegal in nearly every country (if not all).

that was true up to Windows 2000 Professional

I've never messed with 2000 or previous, so that can't be true.  My experience says it will not allow it, but I'm not saying that is the only outcome anyone can ever experience - I've heard people say they have been able to, then others that they could not.

He asked for potential problems with this project ... there it is ... a potential problem.

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If you have never had experience with Windows 2000 how can you KNOW what is true or not? I'm talking from experience and not hearsay! Dell Windows 2000 discs would not install on non Dell motherboards/BIOS. Dell XP and Vista Discs will install on non Dell motherboards and so will Windows 7. Microsoft do have a EULA but I view this as a licence to print money. Microsoft law is not law of the land and I think in many places the EULA would be deemed to be unfair. Anyway if the OP activates over the phone they will be asked how many PC's is the key being used on and if the answer is one and it goes through the activation would have been allowed by Microsoft. If it activates online without the phone call it would have been allowed by Microsoft. If activation fails then purchase another licence. This is what I would do.

Yes there is a POTENTIAL problem but you have made a POTENTIAL problem definite without any experience whatsoever!

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ieee488
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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Yes there is a POTENTIAL problem but you have made a POTENTIAL problem definite without any experience whatsoever!

We are talking about Windows 7 and the original answer was that there may be potential problem.  You need to learn to read.

Also, you may think the EULA is "a licence to print money", but the ToS you agreed to when you joined this message board disallows advocating illegal actions. Dell abides by the EULA. THe surest way to get yourself kicked off this message board is to advocate illegal actions. Think before you continue to spew your disdain of Microsoft.



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rdunnill
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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Also, you may think the EULA is "a licence to print money", but the ToS you agreed to when you joined this message board disallows advocating illegal actions.
Microsoft's heavy-handed EULA terms (introduced with Vista in 2006) can be superseded by law, and that may be the case in some countries.

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CALLMENUJAK
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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I have an XPS 8300 i7.  I want to change the existing motherboard to Asus P8P67 PRO.  Has anyone done anything similar and faced any problems?  Mainly, any problems with a re-install of Win 7 from recovery discs.  Does anyone know the Dell motherboard is linked to the Win 7 install?

I am not advocating anything illegal. I think you are the one who needs to re-read what has been asked instead of being insulting just because you don't agree with the actual facts that I have stated. This fact is true of Windows 7 whether activated online or over the telephone.

Also have you never heard unfair Terms and Conditions?

My life will go on or end regardless of being able to post on this forum.

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theflash1932
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If you have never had experience with Windows 2000 how can you KNOW what is true or not? I'm talking from experience and not hearsay! Dell Windows 2000 discs would not install on non Dell motherboards/BIOS. Dell XP and Vista Discs will install on non Dell motherboards and so will Windows 7.

lol ... you say I can't read ... I've never never done anything like this on 2000, but I have seen the issue first-hand on other OS's, which means that the "issue" did not end with 2000 as you said it did.  I have also not said anything about it being "definite" because I've seen mixed results and heard some (but not all) others have had different results ... I was merely giving him a head's up on potential (perhaps I need to define this word) problems he might face.  With mixed results out there, you can't tell him with any more surety that it will work than I can tell him it won't, regardless of which of us ends up being right in his case.  There are better ways to install Vista/7, even in this kind of situation, making the question of whether or not it will work with a Dell DVD pointless; it is the license that is the real issue.

Regardless of whether you or rd feel it is "fair", that is the law in the US (and I would bet in nearly every place - "may be the case in some countries" doesn't mean it is the case anywhere) - and the price you pay for using Microsoft's software (all licensed software has a certain price you pay to use it beyond the sticker price).  If you don't like their terms, there are alternatives out there under whose license you may not feel as tightly bound.  OEM software comes at a substantial discount; with that discount, comes more restrictive usage (transer of license among them).

Captain ... I'm sorry for the direction this thread has taken, and I wish you well in whatever you decide to do.  cmj (and similar users, if not one and the same) are only here to pick fights, and I refuse to be sucked in as so many others have done on other threads, so I will sign off this thread here.  Good luck.

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rdunnill
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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You would need to buy a valid retail license for Windows 7.

At least in the U.S. and Canada, the OP can buy an OEM version for a huge discount. Microsoft will not provide support, and the OEM version will not perform upgrades, only clean installs (although its key can be used to activate an upgrade performed with a retail or Enterprise edition).

In the old days, Microsoft would insist that OEM versions be sold with hardware, but that is no longer the case. You are free to buy a copy by itself.

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rdunnill
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I have an XPS 8300 i7.  I want to change the existing motherboard to Asus P8P67 PRO. 

It just occurred to me to check the P8P67 PRO mainboard ... it's an ATX and the XPS 8300 is a micro-ATX. Therefore, you cannot use that board in your case; if you want to replace the mainboard in the case, you are restricted to micro-ATX mainboards.

CALLMENUJAK
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I have seen it and done it so I do know what I am talking about. Most of what you are saying is nonsense.

You are a know it all who knows nothing at all! There are better ways to install Vista/7, what are you talking about?

I've never messed with 2000 or previous, so that can't be true. What do you mean by this?

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rdunnill
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Install this Syba SATA II card along with its drivers before swapping. After swapping, use it for the first boot; that will allow Windows to boot. Once Windows has booted, use the driver CD to install the drivers for the new mainboard. The SATA card can then be removed

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ieee488
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Re: XPS 8300 Motherboard Upgrade - What OS Problems Will I Have?

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[quote user="ieee488"]Also, you may think the EULA is "a licence to print money", but the ToS you agreed to when you joined this message board disallows advocating illegal actions.

Microsoft's heavy-handed EULA terms (introduced with Vista in 2006) can be superseded by law, and that may be the case in some countries.

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It may be in "some" countries. There is no indication that the OP is in one of those "other" countries.

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