Vic384
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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But there are hardware manufacturers are not stepping up to provide firmware updates to systems that are only a few years old. What is immense is that with each manufacturer the number of different systems each with a different BIOS version that needs to be updated. It just seems to me that since Spectre is mainly a CPU issue, Spectre microcode fixes via Windows update is a more reasonable approach. I am sure the hardware manufacturers would agree and those who do not can still provide BIOS updates although I believe very few would.

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Cbarnhorst
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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If I understand the situation, the general issue with the older CPUs is poorer and poorer performance the older the generation of a CPU.  Or something like that.  Is that the dilemma?  A choice between unacceptable performance and unacceptable security risk?

I hate uncertainties like:  If replacement is impractical do I just quit using what is otherwise a very usable device?  Or do I just keep going until something bad happens?  Or is the probability of an exploit so low as to just ignore it?  I know there are no black and white answers, but this stuff stays in the back of one's mind.

As an aside, I have been scanning the threads on the Meltdown/Spectre topic for the XPS 8910 and 8930 and we in this thread are much better informed and cared for than the users in those threads, who report confusion and no indication of robust BIOS updates yet.

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Cbarnhorst
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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Dell released BIOS version A13 for XPS 8500 on April 2, 2018.  This resolves the issue.

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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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In addition, here's the download link, for everyone's convenience: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=4H7WY

Tesla1856
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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@Vic384wrote:

But there are hardware manufacturers are not stepping up to provide firmware updates to systems that are only a few years old. What is immense is that with each manufacturer the number of different systems each with a different BIOS version that needs to be updated. It just seems to me that since Spectre is mainly a CPU issue, Spectre microcode fixes via Windows update is a more reasonable approach. I am sure the hardware manufacturers would agree and those who do not can still provide BIOS updates although I believe very few would.


Right. However, it might not be Dell's fault (or HP, Lenovo, or whoever).

https://www.google.com/search?q=intel+not+patching+old+system


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Vic384
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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I think the manufacturers are more at fault than Intel. Take the case of a Intel Skylake processor. It is a fairly recent generation processor and Intel has provided Spectre microcode updates, but not all manufacturers (both system and motherboard) are providing BIOS updates. For this reason I think a more reasonable approach is for Windows (and other OSs like Linux) to provide microcode updates. Of course the microcode still has to come from Intel or AMD.

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@Cbarnhorstwrote:

Dell released BIOS version A13 for XPS 8500 on April 2, 2018.  This resolves the issue.


Thanks so much for this!

 

And thanks Dell for the update! I'll install it later today Smiley Happy

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Tesla1856
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Re: Will there be a Meltdown/Sceptre microcode update for Dell XPS 8500?

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@jdrchwrote:

@Cbarnhorstwrote:

Dell released BIOS version A13 for XPS 8500 on April 2, 2018.  This resolves the issue.


Thanks so much for this!

 

And thanks Dell for the update! I'll install it later today Smiley Happy


Maybe you shouldn't ?

https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/A13-Bios-update-caused-large-performance-problem-how-to-...


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