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October 6th, 2018 12:00

XPS 15-9570, bring back the 78°C GPU set point

I am requesting that Dell brings back the previous 78C set-point for GPU throttling.  Setting the GPU to throttle at 74C is just way too low and doesn't allow the 1050ti to run at reasonable rates.  If Dell won't allow this, then allow us to go back to bios 1.3.0 or 1.2.2 so we can use our laptop. 

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April 29th, 2019 01:00

Just adding my voice here about reverting back to the 78c set point. Come on Dell, do your customers mean anything to you?! Apparently not it seems.

May 2nd, 2019 03:00

The 9570 has been my last dell device as well, including everyone in my family, friends and anyone I know. It is not about having bugs or flaws in the system, its about not caring and not communicating. I cant even play 12 year old games on a pc, I paid 2400 Euros for. Bye dell

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May 2nd, 2019 16:00

CA!

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May 8th, 2019 16:00

Weekly bump.  Just tweeted FA, maybe something can be done...

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May 9th, 2019 08:00

Hi custom90gt
What exactly did you hear?

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May 13th, 2019 02:00

+1 bring back the 78°C GPU set point

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May 16th, 2019 13:00

Basically I was told that Dell will NOT bring back the 78C set point.  I'm hoping keeping this thread will change their mind, but I doubt it.

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May 17th, 2019 15:00

They really crapped the laptop with the 74ºC limit. Bump

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May 31st, 2019 11:00

Bump back up.  Looks like they did the same thing to the Alienware 51M...

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June 7th, 2019 05:00

Weekly Bump to an ongoing problem.

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June 11th, 2019 16:00

and after a year.... They still haven't fix this one. I wish I can swap to a thinkpad x1 extreme easily after spending a lot of this one. I really regret buying this model. Too many problems

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June 12th, 2019 02:00

May I ask what performance was achieved prior to the drop of the GPU temp limit?

 

Currently I can run the GPU at 1835 MHz with 0.950 V instead of 1 V. (MSI Afterburner)

The temps are 72-74°C and therefore the frequency is dropping occasionally to ~1790 MHz.

To achieve these temps I had to lower the CPU frequency to 2.7 GHz. Therefore the CPU Package temp is also at 72-74°C. Any higher frequency and it will lower my GPU performance through the thermal limitation.

 

Another "mod" is to use a small book (~2cm thin) and put it under the laptop. Only under the rubberthing near the air inlet. This has lowered my temps by ~4°C. (I was running the GPU with ~1750 MHz @ 0.825V @ 74°C and with the book the temp has lowered to 69-70°C)

With the new headroom I decided to go for higher frequencies. From what I can tell, the area directly above the F5-F9 keys gets really hot (Most likely the VRMs). If you hold your finger for some seconds on that area it is almost painfully hot. 

 

But with 1850 MHz and higher, my Game (Witcher 3) will eventually crash. Therefore the question: How much performance did we really loose with the lower temperature limit? I have not played games with the 78°C limit, therefore I can't compare it and I know that it is somehow annoying to do all these steps prior to a gaming session. (Put a book under the notebook, start msi afterburner, change throttlestop profile to limit CPU frequency) But in the end I was able to make the notebook work for me with the performance I expect from it.

 

 

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June 15th, 2019 07:00

Performance with the 78C GPU set point was similar to what you get out of your current setup, consistent ~1800MHz GPU performance, but with the CPU running at much higher frequencies.  In all reality outside of undervolting the CPU, nothing really had to be done to the laptop.  Now without undervolting the CPU/GPU and gimping the CPU, you can't run even near consistent GPU speeds. 

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June 20th, 2019 03:00

Bump, it's still a problem

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July 4th, 2019 06:00

Bump

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