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October 24th, 2020 13:00

XPS 9310 - Bluetooth lag with Logitech MX Keys + MX Master 3

My XPS 13 9310 has Bluetooth issues just like my previous XPS 9360

I just received the laptop and updated all drivers, bios and Windows - Everything is up to date. 

Connect my keyboard and mouse and off we go. Awesome laptop - If you don't mind your mouse getting stuck for 2-3 seconds. Or typing a few characters behind.

In the beginning with my 9360 I had a similar problem - Though I remember only turning off some mouse settings and that solved it. Now - can't figure out why out of the box a $2K laptop cannot perform as it should. 

 

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January 25th, 2021 15:00

Ok, so I did more tests.

With a Logitech UltraThin mouse, I can not reproduce the issue. The mouse connects with an older bluetooth version and does not seem to support bluetooth low energy.

With a HP Spectre 700 mouse, the issue can be reproduced, also 100% on both laptops! The XPS 9310 and the Inspiron 14 5406. It is not unique to Logitech!

So it seems to be an BIOS issue (or hardware issue?) with maybe bluetooth low energy input devices...

Someone from Dell-Cares got in contact with me...but I don't know if that leads to anything. But it is a clear bug in the Dell BIOS or hardware.

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January 27th, 2021 15:00

Hi, Did someone try to downgrade Windows to a older version, like 1909 ?

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January 28th, 2021 09:00

I believe someone did that in the first few pages of this thread

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January 28th, 2021 10:00

Yapp, that was me, I downgraded. See page 9 on the bottom. Still on Windows 1909. This "fixed" the issues for me MOSTLY. Not completely. I will stay on Windows 1909, don't have the nerves to experiment further. 

I recorded some videos, you can use them as a reference if you want.

https://www.dell.com/community/XPS/XPS-9310-Bluetooth-lag-with-Logitech-MX-Keys-MX-Master-3/m-p/7761861/highlight/true#M74934

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January 28th, 2021 14:00

I can confirm! It seems to work. Thanks for this tip! I'll keep an eye on it for the next few days, but for now it really looks like the problem is solved.

I changed the first one to 0, added the others and restarted.

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January 28th, 2021 19:00

I've been having this problem with my razer book 13 and have been looking all over for a solution, it's been driving me crazy. So far your fix has worked! I made an account just to say thanks!

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January 28th, 2021 22:00

Someone posted on Lenovo forum about changing registry, it seems work.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\VID_8087&PID_0026\5&ed1e05a&0&10\Device Parameters]

"DeviceSelectiveSuspended"=dword:00000000

"SelectiveSuspendEnabled"=dword:00000000

"SelectiveSuspendSupported"=dword:00000000

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Good work.

Looks like there was 2 different problems presented in this thread.

One was wireless drivers. The WiFi and Bluetooth radios were apparently conflicting with each other on 2.4ghz.

This other problem appears to be the Bluetooth radio not waking-up properly or falling-asleep unintentionally. This was a problem back in Windows-8 days, but forcing the Power-Saving DISABLED on the Bluetooth radio (in Device Manager) seemed to fix it. It was fixed for years. Seems to have resurfaced with recent Windows-10 sleep-mode enhancements or possibly on these recent Intel chipsets and drivers.

 

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January 29th, 2021 06:00

I too was having this issue but I'm on a completely different laptop: Lenovo ThinkBook 13s Gen 2 (G2) with 11th gen Intel i7 processor. I tried the registry edit and it seemed to have fixed the issue so far. For me, however, the folder under VID_8087&PID_0026 was a slightly different name and I was missing the SelectiveSuspendEnabled and SelectiveSuspendSupported entries so I added those and set them to 0 as well as DeviceSelectiveSuspended. I'm curious to know where did the original answer come from? I saw someone mention it was in a Lenovo forum but I've searched for this issue all over and I couldn't find it anywhere and just so happened to stumble on this thread! 

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January 29th, 2021 11:00

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January 29th, 2021 11:00

I found this: https://club.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7665513-1-1.html Not sure if this is the post @YsHaNgM was referring to...

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January 29th, 2021 12:00

Ok thanks, No wonder I couldn't find it! In any case, it has been working well so far. Hopefully Windows/Intel gets their act together and fixes this for good!

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January 29th, 2021 12:00

Yep that's the one, and they said it's basically a driver's bug from Intel AX201.

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January 30th, 2021 09:00

Hi, thank you for the tips. The name of the folder on my PC is :

"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\VID_8087&PID_0026\5&6f4654f&0&10". I just have this entry "DeviceSelectiveSuspended" > I put 0 and nothing happen.  

How I can add "SelectiveSuspendEnabled" and "SelectiveSuspendSupported" and put the value to 0 ?

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January 30th, 2021 11:00

Edit->New->DWORD(32-bit) Or similar, I don't have an English Windows

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January 31st, 2021 04:00

Okay, let's try ! 

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