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November 27th, 2020 06:00

Aurora 11, HDD, migrating to new case

I have decided to buy a new case and motherboard to help with cooling issues. I have all the components I need on the way. Will the HDD from my Alienware Aurora R11 work with an MSI motherboard? Is it locked to the Alienware motherboard? 

Thanks all. 

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November 27th, 2020 20:00

Re: Will the HDD from my Alienware Aurora R11 work with an MSI motherboard? Is it locked to the Alienware motherboard? 

Actually it will work just fine.  Although the HDD currently stores the configuration of Alienware system, it will automatically detect the new system spec and automatically adjust to it.  That is the benefit of Windows 10.  I have done this plenty of times moving HDD with Win 10 installed in one Dell PC to another desktop, either Dell or non-Dell.  The first time powering up Windows 10 need to think a little bit.  This is just like the end steps of Win 10 clean install when it adjusts to system spec (after installing the OS).  There will not be any conflict between the new config and old one from Alienware.  It is like you installed a video card then upgrade to a faster one.  OS will just download the new driver.  Do you need to wipe the HDD OS to install a new video card?  No, most people would not.   I do not think you need to wipe the HDD.  A simple transplant is the easiest way to go.  Of course if you are a purist wanting the cleanest install, you can either get a different HDD or wipe the current one.

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November 27th, 2020 09:00

Thank you all for the replies. I’ve done everything about cooling that I can. Currently running a 3080 and that bad boy puts out some heat. I am simply going to get a new HDD and load a fresh coy of windows into it.

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November 27th, 2020 09:00

To do that properly, you would wipe the hard drive clean, load your new motherboard drivers and then a new install of Windows. 

If you try to merely add the new motherboard drivers to the Alienware motherboard drivers, conflicts will no doubt arise and also Windows will sense the difference in motherboards (presume that you are trying to use Windows on a second computer) and not function until you buy a new copy (one copy per computer).  

You might be able to convince Microsoft that you are replacing a defective motherboard and they will just issue you a new license number, but that is subject to your negotiating skills and the mood of the Microsoft rep.

 

Best of luck!

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November 27th, 2020 09:00

"to help with cooling issues."

You could save yourself a lot of headaches and just get a larger case for better air circulation if cooling is your only concern.  Trying to switch power supply cables and everything else over to another motherboard is not worth any slight increase in cooling efficiency.

Just a suggestion.

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November 27th, 2020 19:00

Photographs of your fine work as it progresses are not required, but highly appreciated! 

Thanks!

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November 27th, 2020 19:00

Good question. Yes I am liquid cooled on the CPU I have the “Alienware Liquid Cooling.” 

the problem is that the from 120mm intake fan on the front of the case had to be taken out in order to fit this monstrous card.

The case alone, as you may know, is very poor when is comes to cooling to begin with. As well, as you may know, the only exhaust on this case is in the top where the radiator is which is just about worthless.

 

I have a NZXT H510 Elite that just got here. I am migrating everything tomorrow. Cheers. 

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November 27th, 2020 19:00

Thank you all for the replies. I’ve done everything about cooling that I can. Currently running a 3080 and that bad boy puts out some heat. I am simply going to get a new HDD and load a fresh coy of windows into it.

That's surprising for me to hear. Is your CPU air-cooled or liquid-cooled? (Your graphics card is most likely air-cooled because liquid-cooled-3080-equipped Aurora R11 has yet to hit the market.)

I have heard quite some stories about 3080 and 3090 dumping an absurd amount of heat into computer cases. If your R11 has liquid-cooled CPU and is still overheating, I will have to rethink about my life. xD

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November 27th, 2020 20:00

The case alone, as you may know, is very poor when is comes to cooling to begin with. As well, as you may know, the only exhaust on this case is in the top where the radiator is which is just about worthless.

I have a NZXT H510 Elite that just got here. I am migrating everything tomorrow. Cheers. 

Congratz on the H510 Elite! My bestie was provoking me to blow my hard-earned cash on an RTX 3090 (for my Aurora R11). I was quite concerned with PSU, heat, and everything else.

Currently I'm learning towards the upcoming RTX 3060 Ti or RTX 3060(?) 7nm (could be named RTX 3260 or something), especially with an Asus custom board (dual-fan). Such setting seems more viable with our small Aurora R11.

There are also blower models (e.g. Gigabyte 3090 Turbo) that's supposed to manage the case heat better. It seems your empirical evidence makes a strong case that heat is a bottleneck when it comes to Aurora GPU upgrades.

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November 27th, 2020 22:00


Also, the os drive would be filled with a bunch of stuff and hardware components that you don't need.

 


Isn't that called Windows 10? 

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself...

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November 27th, 2020 22:00

The other thing you'd want to lose with a clean install on a new mobo is the default Dell RAID setting in bios and Intel RST.

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November 27th, 2020 22:00

"Isn't that called Windows 10?"

LOL ok that made me laugh.

I like to call it Dellware.

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November 27th, 2020 22:00

"Actually it will work just fine."

Well, windows will "work" to some extent but after you drop the oem os drive in the new motherboard you'll have a watermark on your desktop warning you that windows is not activated, and you won't be able to access all the features of window including any personalization settings.  

Also, the os drive would be filled with a bunch of stuff specific to the aurora's motherboard and hardware components that you don't need.

It's better to do a clean install on the new ssd/aftermarket mobo with a valid retail windows license key.

 

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November 28th, 2020 07:00

@AuroraHasManyFans  I have heard quite some stories about 3080 and 3090 dumping an absurd amount of heat into computer cases.

Can you maybe shoot us some links on this. I have a 3080 and my temps are surprisingly low in my Lian Li Lancool II. (unless your speaking of Alienware) Here is a picture I shared already on another thread of temps while deep into gaming on Cold War a very heavy graphics game. I lock the frames at 120 because My monitor tops out at 120Hz. I like to match it.

This was also befor I started playing with OC on this beast. When I started hitting 2100Mz on the clock she was still only around 64c (steep fan curve though )

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November 30th, 2020 01:00

Can you maybe shoot us some links on this. I have a 3080 and my temps are surprisingly low in my Lian Li Lancool II. (unless your speaking of Alienware)

Of course it's in Alienware Aurora where the RTX 3080 and 3090 are overheating. Lian Li rigs are bigger and have much better cooling. But for us peasants with Alienware, looking for a thermal solution (such as liquid-cooled GPU) for these powerful cards is a real struggle.

May 1st, 2021 01:00

Sorry for the probably very basic question: If you want to swap the old SSD into the new mobo/case, do you need to remove all data in it first (saving in an hdd for example) or would you be able to install it as is and clean it during the OS booting process? Just trying to figure all the steps for a possible transition. I have (as many) a 5950 r10 temp issue.
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