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September 4th, 2020 01:00

XPS 8930, RTX 3080 compatible?

Hi Everyone,

Following the NVIDIA RTX 30 series reveal event, I think of upgrading my XPS 8930's GPU to the RTX 3080. I know I'll need to upgrade my PSU (since I currently have the original 460W PSU), but I'm also concerned about heat buildup. The problem is that the 3rd party designs revealed so far don't have any rear-blower designs, only open-air ones. However, it does seem that the FE will have a sort of open-air/rear-blower mix design, as can be seen in this photo:

https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series/geforce-rtx-30-series-dual-axial-flow-through-visualization.png

What do you think? Will it be enough?

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September 4th, 2020 07:00

You will have to wait for the 90 seies with liquid FREON cooling.

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September 4th, 2020 16:00

Not Joking.

Its VERY expensive.  Has Freon and compressor just like a small refrigerator. This is NOT passive air cooling.

1,500 Pound Sterling

1,993.05 US Dollar
 

http://www.ldcooling.com/

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d0B0Dli-1g

 

 

Note Compressor and radiator in the bottom.Note Compressor and radiator in the bottom.

 

September 8th, 2020 17:00

How about the card's length in general, will it actually fit in the first place? From what i saw there are 4 SATA ports across, there are plugs sticking out from 1 & 2 ports which the card will completely cover. I don't think it will be a big problem, if they are going to make it tight for the card to fit they can just be replugged in ports 3 & 4 below. Also it looks like PSU will block the card's vent only partially.....? Still bad, i know

Do you not recommend getting the Founder's Edition and just wait for third party alternatives? I hear open vents are going to be even worse for a case like XPS models because of how tiny and unventilated they are.

I know it's hard to say not having seen the other models yet but going by guess work, which brand would you recommend if not Nvidia's Founder's Edition, based on previous cards.

Thanks in advance 

September 8th, 2020 17:00

Sorry, was my first post here

Questions directed at Dell630i or anyone else who's familiar with Dell XPS models

thank you

September 23rd, 2020 15:00

Hi there,

Based on whats been revealed thus far, can anyone make an educated advice on which version of of RTX 3080 would be most suitable for XPS 8930? I was thinking of either getting Asus Rog Strix, or EVGA (as they become available of course). Would anyone of these variations be better than the Founder Edition? Would they fit, they look slightly bigger than FE.....

Appreciate any answer

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September 24th, 2020 11:00

Do we know if any of Dell's motherboards will support an RTX 30xx video card without a BIOS update, even assuming the PSU is big enough?

At minimum, you'll have to disable Secure Boot in BIOS setup.

September 24th, 2020 11:00

@Anonymous do you recommend waiting to see if Gigabyte will come up with a similar design for RTX 3080? But if the power connectors are going to be an issue as you pointed out, do you like any of the other alternatives as a second option? Would either EVGA or Asus ROG not be able to provide sufficient cooling?

September 24th, 2020 15:00

@Anonymous 

fair enough, i'll check out what Alienware users are saying. I'm impatient i guess.

how about what RoHe said about Dell's motherboard, any clue on that? This got me really worried now......

 

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September 24th, 2020 15:00

@John Wayne  - Let someone else be the Guinea Pig, given the estimated cost of RTX 30xx cards and the PSU upgrade you'll need. My 2 cents... 

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see mention of which CPU you have in your XPS 8930, what you'd use an RTX 30xx card for, or if any games (assuming you game) can actually take full advantage of the capabilities of these cards right now...

September 24th, 2020 17:00

@RoHe I currently have a weak 460 Watt power supply pre installed by Dell along with my RTX 2060. I say weak because obviously before i get an RTX 3080 i'll have to upgrade to at least an 850 watt as Dell630i suggested.

I've been a console player pretty much all my life but recently my old PC died and i had no choice but to upgrade to an XPS 8930 5 months ago, wish i waited but too late now. Plus, for the first time i also upgraded to a 4k monitor, which is a major reason why i want an rtx 3080 so i can game at 4k on ultra settings without stutter, otherwise i would be wasting the potential of my monitor by downgrading resolution. From what i understand 3080 should be more than capable of delivering that. I'm not super computer savvy but thanks to this forum and a few instructional videos on youtube i'm able to work my way around on basic things. I'm still too green about adding additional fans or any liquid cooling system, as i'll be getting myself into the woods, so i'm just hoping to get my hands on a 3080 card with a design that will allow cooling in such a tight space case without my help.

@Anonymous do you think i'm asking for trouble if i only upgrade my power supply and not add any other fans other than what is already in my case? Will the card eventually overheat and die on me a lot sooner?

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September 24th, 2020 20:00

@Anonymous 
My XPS 8930 has i7-9700, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 1T HDD, Dell's OEM 850W PSU and Dell's OEM GTX 1660Ti video card.

I don't game and have never had any heat issues. I run Speccy (free) on the taskbar with CPU temp visible all the time so I always know what the temp is. IIRC, the highest I ever saw the CPU was ~50ºC, while doing a firmware update on the stock Micron SSD. The PC is quiet and I never hear any fans.

@John Wayne 
Unfortunately, the 460W PSU is actually too wimpy for Dell's RTX 2060 GPU. There are threads about this combination of PSU/GPU in the XPS 8930 showing very strange behavior that gets fixed if/when an 850W PSU is installed. That should be an easy upgrade for you.

If you'd waited to replace your old PC, what would you have gotten? Dell's XPS 8940 comes with a max 500W PSU. That PSU is a custom design and -as of now- virtually impossible to replace. So there's little chance any RTS 30xx GPU is going to run on that model without a major overhaul (eg, an external PSU). Same is also true for Dell's G5 5090.

At least your XPS 8930 can be upgraded with a bigger PSU, bigger fans, etc, if needed...

 

 

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September 24th, 2020 21:00

The XPS 8930 Special Edition had an option to upgrade to the 850W PSU for an extra $50.  FWIW, the XPS 8930 specs only list 8th Gen CPUs, meaning they're way out of date because Dell also sold this model with 9th Gen CPUs. But those same specs list both the 460W and 850W PSU, so the PSU upgrade must have been available right from the beginning.

AFAIK, I have a 92mm top fan. Haven't looked closely at it. I have no intention of gaming or upgrading the GPU so I'm OK with the way it is, but -obviously- those who game and have "k" and/or i9 CPUs with power-hungry GPUs have different needs.

 

September 25th, 2020 14:00

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@Anonymous Same as RoHe i have i7-9700


 Same as RoHe i have i7-9700

 I saw your thread on fan installation and to be honest it would take some doing on my end if i was to attempt it, and considering the money i already spent, and will need to spend for a new psu and new rtx card, i just can't justify anymore expenses even if that means extra insurance for my system. I'd probably say that for the amount i already spent, anyone else with more experience and knowledge would have been able to build a pretty decent horsepower for their rig, and maybe even save a few bucks in the process. i'll regret this probably but i think i'll be passing on installing a fan and instead hope for a third party card that will have a more friendly cooling design for smaller cases. 

September 25th, 2020 14:00

@Anonymous  I saw your thread on fan installation and to be honest it would take some doing on my end if i was to attempt it, and considering the money i already spent, and will need to spend for a new psu and new rtx card, i just can't justify anymore expenses even if that means extra insurance for my system. I'd probably say that for the amount i already spent, anyone else with more experience and knowledge would have been able to build a pretty decent horsepower for their rig, and maybe even save a few bucks in the process. i'll regret this probably but i think i'll be passing on installing a fan and instead hope for a third party card that will have a more friendly cooling design for smaller cases. 

September 25th, 2020 14:00

@RoHe I actually did not research other Dell models you mentioned. But the fact that the psu in 8930 can be upgraded while the same is not possible for other models, i now feel a little bit better about my recent purchase. Thanks for cheering me up man!  

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