Vostro Desktops

[Hazsys]

Can anyone point me to where I might get a Firewire 400 (6 pin) card for my Vostro 3471. My problem is finding a half height card (Dell seem to only have full height boards - e.g. Dell part 403-BBHN).

Would appreciate any help.

[fireberd]

Not sure on half height cards, but it has to be a card with a T.I. chipset.  I had a Saffire PRO 40 and it only worked with a T.I. chipset Firewire interface.

One possibility, there are "extender" cards (or used to be) that would stick out of the case and allow full size cards to be used.  If they are still around that's one option.

[Hazsys]

Thanks for such a quick and helpful reply.

[Hazsys]

For anyone interested, given the TI chipset mentioned by firebird (above) this is the card I think I need - now to find an Australian retailer.

Ableconn PEX-FW107 1394b & 1394a 3-Port PCI Express (PCIe) Low Profile FireWire Host Adapter Card - TI XIO2213 Chipset

http://www.ableconn.com/products_2.php?gid=147

[fireberd]

That looks like what you need.  You might have to "import" it from the US.

[speedstep]

@Hazsys 

@fireberd 

Firewire Adds 15 levels of incompatibility starting with 64 bit windows 8.1 and the removal of the OHCI driver.  TI also never made DCH drivers for this so secure boot would need to be OFF for the hardware to be seen and legacy driver to load.

Legacy Directx June 2010 is also removed as is movie maker and windows live components from 2012.  So All of those will need to be added back.

Startech low Profile FireWire B0037ECAMM

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109

Windows Live Essentials 2012

Windows Live Essentials 2012 setup

Lastly the PCI-E version is 2.0  not 2.1 or 3.0 so the PHY line code is 8b/10b  not 128b / 130b which is also a problem.

https://www.ti.com/product/XIO2213B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1B0msn9xcI

startech firewire windows legacy driver 

1. Download the Microsoft Firewire 1394 Legacy Driver Installer
2. Double-click to run the 1394_OHCI_LegacyDriver.msi file. This will extract the drivers to: C:\Program Files (x86)\1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)\
3. Open the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)\X64_driver\
4. Right-click on Legacy1394.inf and choose Install to install the drivers
5. Press the Windows Key + R
6. Type devmgmt.msc
7. Click OK
8. In Device Manager, expand IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controllers
9. Right-click on 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
10. Click Update Driver Software
11. Click Browse my computer for driver software
12. Click Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer
13. Click 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)
14. Click Next
15. (When Windows has finished installing the driver) click Close

[Hazsys]

Wow Speedstep, thank you for that info. Unsurprisingly you've got me concerned that my investment in the now ordered card will open up an unanticipated 'can of worms'.  Amazon say the card should arrive towards the end of April. I'll update here my installation/compatibility experiences. Fingers crossed all will work.

[fireberd]

I didn't do anything @speedstep mentions, including the "Legacy" driver and it all worked with the Windows 10 defaults.   Thus start out with the default driver that Windows installs.  If it doesn't  work then take the steps outlined.

Actually, I didn't use the Legacy driver in Win 7 or 8 either.  Last OS I used the Legacy Driver was Vista.

[speedstep]

@Hazsys 

@fireberd 

https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/Firewire-1.htm#

[fireberd]

As I noted I did NOT use the Legacy FW driver and it all worked perfectly with two different Firewire recording interface units, one being the Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 that this user has.

I was using the Legacy driver and did a clean install of Win 7 and forgot to install the Legacy driver and it was working properly,  I installed the Legacy driver and it didn't make any difference so I uninstalled the Legacy driver and just used the Windows default driver.  Upgrading to Win 8 and then 8.1 and finally Win 10 I continued to use the default Windows driver and no problems.