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January 13th, 2022 05:00

Aurora R10, Kingston Fury DDR4 3200MHz ram

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I have an Alienware Aurora R10 Ryzen Edition with Ryzen 5900X, RTX3080 and 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz RAM. I wanted to upgrade the RAM to 32GB and bought the same RAM the aurora came with (Kingston Fury). I tested the OEM-RAM with CPU-Z and the timings are not very fast. XMP 3200: 20-20-20-52 1,25V. Is that the normal timing for the Dell OEM RAM?

With the new Kingston Fury Ram I can run little faster (18-18-18-36) but I cant reach the CL timing of 16 the RAM-sticks do support. Every time I tried 16-18-18-36 timing the PC wont turn on after shutdown. Im happy the RAM runs just fine with CL18 but are there any Retail-Rams that support the timing of 16-18-18-36 with the Aurora-Ryzen-motherboard? Perhaps I would give it a try with an other brand.

Thanks!

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January 13th, 2022 05:00

The only officially supported memory is the original OEM memory.

Aftermarket memory support is very limited, and could fail to work properly after a BIOS update.

 

See this thread for aftermarket memory part # that have been reported to work:R10 aftermarket memory 

The OEM memory: R10 validated memory 

 

Also, be aware the OEM memory modules are only available via DELL. If you purchase retail memory of the same brand and name, it might be different than the validated OEM memory. For example Kingston Fury from Kingston directly will be different than Kingston Fury from Dell, even if it looks the same. You have to go by the actual full part #. For example if you use Corsair vengeance, it has to be vengeance with the full part #, not just any vengeance. I have used Corsair without any issues on my R10 for months, they worked really well first try.

 

Additionally, try to avoid mixing memory whenever possible, as it usually causes issues.

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January 13th, 2022 06:00

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I know that the OEM memory is only available via Dell. But I dont want the OEM-memory because its not the fastest and its much to expensive. Also I noticed that the memory installed on the OEM is Hynix and the retail has Samsung. I did not mix the memory, I bought a retail 32GB-Kit from Kingston. As what I know so far I can be happy that the retail memory runs in my system. It has faster timings than the OEM and its stable at 18-18-18-36. I will take a look at your link, perhaps I will try the Corsair too.

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January 13th, 2022 07:00

If I remember I will look tonight to see what the timings and exact part # are for my corsair.

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January 13th, 2022 08:00

Thank you! I have read the link you posted and it seems that users report the Crucial Ballistix BL2K16G32C16U4B will work with the Aurora R10 with the timings of 16-18-18-36. I ordered a 32GB-Kit and will report if they work. 

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January 13th, 2022 09:00

R10 user validated 2x16gb

  Hits
Unknown XJV223-MIE 2x16GB 50x
Unknown XN205T-MIE2 2x16GB 45x
Kingston XN205T-MIE 2x16GB 42x
Unknown X2YH1K-MIE-NX 2x16GB 37x
Kingston XRGM6C-MIE 2x16GB 34x
Unknown X2YH1K-MIE 2x16GB 31x
Unknown XJV223-MIE-NX 2x16GB 30x
Kingston XRMWRN-MIE 2x16GB 22x
Unknown X0N6VG-HYD2 2x16GB 20x
Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 2x16GB 16x
Unknown XRMWRN-MIE2 2x16GB 15x

 

out of these X0N6VG-HYD2 2x16GB has the shortest Avg. Physical RAM Latency 68.9ns.

the other one is XN205T-MIE2 2x16GB.Avg. Physical RAM Latency 69.5ns.

 

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January 13th, 2022 11:00

That is also the memory I put in my R10.

Use XMP1 

Works great

 

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January 13th, 2022 13:00

I use Crucial BL8G32C16U4R.M8FE 16-18-18-36-72 at 1.35 volt.

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January 13th, 2022 23:00

based on Steve at GN video on ram timing, this is a very complex topic.  it seems you cannot just assume based on math on paper that 3200 CL 16 of non-Dell ram is faster than Dell 3200 CL 20 or another ram 3200 CL 18.   the actual memory speed is best shown on benchmark.   it would be more helpful to upload ram actual AIDA64 benchmark to compare than just the CL settings etc.  e.g.,mobile01-e4e416324d209f8b553afccfc1433c7b

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January 14th, 2022 01:00

Aurora boards are picky on ram voltages and timings

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January 14th, 2022 01:00

You are correct. I have a CL18 3600mhz kit that actually has lower latency than my other CL16 3600mhz kit

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January 14th, 2022 07:00

Thanks everyone! I wasnt aware that upgrading the memory of my aurora would be such a complex issue. Anyway I can confirm (like some other users did already) that the CRUCIAL BALLISTIX BL2K16G32C16U4R (R ist for the red colour of the heatsink) which i ordered yesterday is running perfect in my aurora R10 ryzen edition with the timings of 16-18-18-36 @3200MHz. I have done a few benchmarks and everything is fine so far. No issues atall. I will keep the OEM-memory as a reserve in case there should be any trouble with a biosupdate in the future but im optimistic that the crucial-memory will keep running well. 

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January 27th, 2022 03:00

I would like to make an additional comment: I purchased anouther pair (2x16GB) of the exact same memory for my second PC that runs without any issues with the correct speed and timings (3200Mhz 16-18-18-36 1.35V) in my aurora R10 ryzen edition: CRUCIAL BALLISTIX BL2K16G32C16U4B. (This just has a black heatsink instead of red). I was curious to test this memory in my aurora R10 and I experienced boot issues again. So i put the red ones in again and have no problems at all with them. So my conclusion is: Yes, the Aurora R10 motherboards are extremly picky with the memory. Even with the exact same memory manufacturer and with the same specifications (same model) there can be a slight difference that decide if you are lucky or not.

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March 7th, 2022 07:00

I just wanted to give a feedback after nearly 2 month of using the CRUCIAL BALLISTIX BL2K16G32C16U4R memory in my R10 Ryzen Edition with nearly every day of gaming-usage. Today i made the secound bios update with the Crucial memory installed to the new 2.2.5 bios. I can confirm that everything is still working with no issues at all with the correct timings and speed. So i think choosing the Crucial-memory was a good decision.

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June 16th, 2022 09:00

I just removed my OEM Kingston Fury 16GB from my Aurora 12. I installed 4 Sims of matched ram. Running great. Are you interested in purchasing my OEM that I removed? Make me an offer.

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June 16th, 2022 10:00

I switched back to 32GB OEM Kingston Fury because i experienced some odd behavior at startup after a new bios update with failure-blinking codes. The timings are slower than with the Crucials and the OEM-Kingston from Dell is ridiculous expensive but system runs stable again.

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