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For some reason my FPS on games aren't where they are suppose to be, for example CS:GO use to run at 240 FPS now it drops to like 15 - 60 and its just terrible. Is anyone else having this problem?
DELL-Milena M
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January 29th, 2014 10:00
Hello Imprezme!
Have you tried to uninstall the video card driver and install it again?
Imprezme
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February 4th, 2014 00:00
would you mind leading me the steps thru this and ill give it a try, thanks !
DELL-Milena M
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February 4th, 2014 06:00
Sure, on this article you will find instructions on how to install the discrete video card driver and on this other you will find some more troubleshooting steps that might help you to fix the problem.
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February 4th, 2014 15:00
Ok so i uninstalled my drivers and when it comes to installing the intel graphics driver it failed...when i click to launch the software and i click install, it then proceeds to say fail
DELL-Milena M
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February 5th, 2014 06:00
Are you downloading the drivers from support.dell.com?
Does it let you install the discrete video card driver?
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February 6th, 2014 04:00
yeah im downloading the drivers from dell, it lets me DL the drivers but not install them. I can uninstall the Nvidia drivers and install them as well just not the intel
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February 6th, 2014 09:00
When you open the device manager do you see an exclamation mark under display adapters?
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February 6th, 2014 17:00
Doing this will not change your in-game performance running discrete graphics because the integrated GPU is disabled. So, I would not burn any calories on that right now. If you sometimes run on battery and want the 4 to 5 hours of battery life on the Intel integrated graphics then you will probably want to press FN+F7 to update that driver, but you can address that later on if your primary reason for posting is poor performance.
A few questions to be sure we are on the same page, and so we can determine if there is actually a problem.
If you are already on "High performance" and connected to AC, and running your discrete graphics (AMD or NVIDIA) then my next suspect issue would be high temperatures are causing your video cards to throttle to avoid burning up. What are your in-game temperatures? If you have not recently done so, remove the bottom cover. Simply take the battery out, remove 4 screws and slide the cover off. Remove the screws from the three fans and lift them out of their mounting pockets to expose the heat sink radiators. You can leave the wires connected. Use a vacuum cleaner or compressed air to remove all of the dust and lint from the fans and heat sink radiator fins. Be sure to hold the fan blades so the fans to not rev up to high speeds, as this can damage the fans. More details can be found here: Cleaning Dust and Lint from Heat Sinks and Fans to Restore Performance
Overheating due to dust and lint clogging the cooling components is one of the primary causes of degraded performance on desktop and laptop computers. This needs to be done periodically. Doing this cleaning at 90-day intervals is good unless you live in an environment with a lot of dust, smoke or pet dander. Shorter cleaning intervals may be appropriate under those conditions.
If all of the above suggestion don't resolve your performance issues, let us know and we can explore other possibilities. Be sure to monitor your temps during gaming if the problem persists, as you may still have a situation that needs attention (such as replacing thermal paste if cleaning things up is not enough). You can monitor temperatures with a number of different utilities.
You can watch your temperatures in realtime using RivaTuner Statistic Server and HWiNFO64. Details on this are posted here:
HOW TO: Monitoring CPU and GPU Temperatures In-Game/In-Benchmark with On-Screen Display
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February 7th, 2014 17:00
well the 580/680 were known for temps being high also for issues with the improper installation of the thermal paste(not removing the plastic cover) and yes if to much dust is in the cooling fin it causes it to heat up.... less heat removal = thermal throttling and throttles the speed of the video card.. I went with ATI 7970's due to the known issues with NVidia and heat and the price vs performace was not worth the extra... I average around 65C on both video and 70 ish on cpu ambient temp 22-23C but I clean my fans avery 2-3 weeks and I say they are dusty ...
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February 7th, 2014 17:00
Thats good to know, thanks man!
Imprezme
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February 7th, 2014 17:00
Hey fox, i just want to thank you for replying to all my post! it is very appreciated.
I am currently running two 680m SLI cards on the M18x, And yes i am running on discrete graphics, Yes the AC power is connected because i have the battery out at the moment and it is also on highpower. I am not sure about my in game temps as i have to look into that.
Do you really think that dust can cause a drop in FPS of 100? I mean i do hear the fans kick on very often
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February 7th, 2014 18:00
Did you go all the way, remove the fans and clean out the heat sink radiators, too? If not, you really need to do that because they'll undoubtedly be very dirty if you saw a lot of dust from simply removing the bottom cover.
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February 7th, 2014 18:00
Alright so i did as you told and removed the panel, and wow there was a huge amount of dust build up in the back. I cleaned it all off, hopefully that resolves the issue. Ill run some of the tests and see where my temps are at. Thank you again fox!
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February 7th, 2014 18:00
Sure thing, bud. Glad to help.Your 680M SLI set up is one of the best mobile high performance graphics cards there is, and it overclocks like a real banshee with excellent temperatures as long as everything is clean and you have good thermal paste. I have never had any overheating issues with 680M or 780M video cards, but any of them will collapse with high temperatures if the heat sinks and fans get stuffed with dust and lint.
And, yes... absolutely, high CPU or GPU temps will cause very severe performance degradation exactly like what you are experiencing. The processors have built-in thermal protection and they will slow down their clock speeds to a crawl if they get too hot. If they get extremely hot (beyond performance degradation) the system will shut down to avoid damage. Depending on how the vBIOS is configured, GPU performance begins to degrade in the neighborhood of 85°C. Some around 80°C and some closer to 90°C, but as a general rule you want to keep your video card temps at 80°C or less as much as possible. A good maximum target for CPU is 90°C, which is a typical throttle point for most Intel CPU without BIOS tweaking to override the throttle point.
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February 7th, 2014 21:00
yeah i did, i unscrewed the 3 fans in the back and pulled them all out. good amount of dust in there and i just cleaned it right up. would you think i would need to reapply the thermal paste?